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Both solicits featuring the lovely Psylocke!

Uncanny X-Force #8 & #9
Written by: Sam Humphries
Art by: Ramon Perez
Cover by: Kris Anka

The Fantomex Love Pentagram explodes!
With the truth about their sordid past revealed, can Fantomex, Psylocke, and Cluster look each other in the eye?
Every psychic ninja needs a vicious animal with no impulse control and a short temper to back her up, right?
Plus: A terrifying surprise villain from the X-past is definitely playing chess, not checkers, across Los Angeles.

(I'm loving this series so far, but I have increasing fears Spiral is going to pull a Mystique/Lady Mastermind/Poison Ivy and bail out of the team.)

X-Men #3
Written by: Brian Wood
Art by: Olivier Coipel
Cover by: Olivier Coipel

The X-Men find out what Arkea is capable of, and the phrase "rampaging horde" comes to mind.
Can Arkea be defeated? Can the X-Men take down one of their own, if that's what it takes?
Meanwhile, what's up with Sublime and Rachel? What's up with Bling and Cipher? What's up with Jubilee and Bling?

and finally

At the Iron Man 3 premiere, Joss Whedon was asked about Avengers 2. He dropped a bombshell.

"...I’ve got these two characters, you know, I’ve got these two of my favorite characters from the comic books, a brother/sister act. They’re in the movie. That’s exciting. You know you can lock certain things in."

There's no question it's Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. And for people wondering who owns the rights exactly:

"Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has said on a number of occasions that the film rights for Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver specifically are a little more complicated. It appears that whichever studio gets to them first gets them, in the most high-profile case of "dibs" in recent memory."

So, who do you think should be cast as Pietro and Wanda? I was thinking Monica Bellucci or Eva Green for Wanda, not sure about Pietro however.

Date: 2013-04-25 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kevinroc
I'm a little surprised they're going for Pietro and Wanda since they can't be mutants and they can't be Magneto's kids. Magneto's formerly mutant terrorist children on a path to redemption has all the makings of a film plot. (Would they still be terrorists on a path to redemption without bringing up their dad or that they are mutants?)

But between this, and the rumor that the Ant-Man movie is going to focus on Pym AND Lang, I wonder if they're setting up for their own Young Avengers spin-off down the line.

Date: 2013-04-25 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Since the Cinematic universe is more cosmic based, maybe they can be alien-influenced, start out as enemies but are soon brought to the side of the angels? A little too close to Hawkeye's arc, but it could work.

Date: 2013-04-25 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kevinroc
They did that with Hawkeye because they didn't really have any room for him in the first Avengers film (Whedon says as such in the commentary track). Presumably if you're bringing in Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, you're going to really do something with them.

Marvel basically decided who the Avengers in the first film were before Whedon got involved. The only thing is that Whedon almost brought in the Wasp because of how much he likes Jan. I think the main reason he didn't was because he thought the film was already too big and introducing another character and giving her something to do would have taken up even more screentime.

Date: 2013-04-25 09:42 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
Actually, Jan was already planned to be in the film, before they had Black Widow involved. IIRC, Joss wanted to have both girls in, but he made to conscious decision to nix Wasp because his plans for her would end up hogging the spotlight too much, and run the risk of putting people off her character, if not confuse them all. Considering that both Clint and Steve had to have little development given their way to fit evrything in, its sadly a good call.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:14 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Why can't they be mutants? There's nothing to say mutants can't exist in Avenger-verse, is there?

Date: 2013-04-25 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kevinroc
It's really that all of Marvel's mutants are tied to the X-Men license. Which is probably meant to simplify things. Although there was always a possible exception for Pietro and Wanda because of their long-regarded status as Avengers.

(The Skrulls are also in that legally nebulous area where the FF license and Marvel could use them.)

Date: 2013-04-25 10:17 pm (UTC)
angelophile: (Bubo HMMMMMM)
From: [personal profile] angelophile
They can still be mutants, they just can't say they're mutants. They didn't give any background on Black Widow or Hawkeye in the movies either and, while they don't have superpowers to the same obvious extent, the question could be sidestepped. Along with any specific mention of Magneto.

None of which is particularly heartening, but there are work-arounds for the legalities.

Date: 2013-04-25 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] spacebetween
No it has been said that Mutants are in Cinematic Universe, they just can't make references to characters tied into other studios eg X-Men. They have even said, what they can't reference in movies they can reference in the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series because their is no breach with the movie rights.

Date: 2013-04-26 01:25 am (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
The never ending battle between continuity and media licensing rights wages one.

Date: 2013-04-26 06:31 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
so theoritically they can introduce Pietro and Wanda as Magneto's kids and mutants in the agents of Shield series, but not mention that in the movies.

or have them appear in the movies and clarify who they are in the series (seems like a fun and creative work around)

Date: 2013-04-25 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
If they were going to add more members, I was hoping for, say, She Hulk or Carol (as Ms. Marvel or, more likely, Captain Marvel), but I'm sure Whedon and co. will make them work.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:39 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Kid Flash)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
I vote Yvonne Strahovski for Carol Danvers.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kevinroc
I'd have tagged her for Bobbi Morse. Her role as Sarah on Chuck wasn't too far off from Bobbi.

Date: 2013-04-25 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
She could definitely pull it off, but maybe it's because I'm playing the games for the first time, but it's going to be hard to not see her as Miranda in a different kind of skin-tight outfit. :O

Date: 2013-04-25 09:42 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Kid Flash)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
She'd be a good fit for both, to be honest.

Date: 2013-04-25 06:46 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I'm ... not sure how severing Wanda and Pietro from their backstory can possibly work for the characters.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:15 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Remember that their actual backstory is a relatively recent addition to their past. They weren't Magneto's kids until the late 1980's, and worked fine as characters before then.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:43 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Default)
From: [personal profile] trobadora

True enough, but I at least will find it very difficult to turn back time in my mind.

Edited Date: 2013-04-25 07:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-04-25 10:42 pm (UTC)
urkonn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] urkonn
But they were always former Evil League of Mutants members.

Date: 2013-04-25 11:04 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Fairly half hearted ones, if you need that level of bad attitude from them, just give them the usual "living on the streets, using their powers to survive and stay one step ahead of the law" etc etc etc

Date: 2013-04-25 11:25 pm (UTC)
urkonn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] urkonn
I was just stating a point about their origin in the comic.
I think they can be good characters even without their original backstory. Joss doesn't even really have to give them one. He didn't really do that with Black Widow or Hawkeye.
The truth is almost all of what I actually read containing their interaction was the little since her return on 616, and the Ultimate universe up to Ultimatum. So I don't know a lot about them first hand.
I just hope it's not the Ultimates version were they are practically in love.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
Translating Wanda's powers to the big screen and live action would be tough.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:29 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Just explain that she disrupts probability in a localised area, random things happen to cause events to change in her favour.

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

I was just thinking that it could actually translate beautifully on screen, as a small effect she causes dominoes like crazy (It could even lead to her being critiqued for being ineffective by her own team until the full effects manifest and she stands there arching an eyebrow in slightly smug satisfaction "For wont of a nail, the shoe was ).

Say she causes a bolt to pop on an attacking ship, we zoom in on that, and then pull back as we see the damage spreading until an entire wing section tear itself off, or the fuselage collapses.

Date: 2013-04-25 08:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Five Final Destination movies have managed to visualize the concept fairly successfully. I think it would actually be very refreshing and visually interesting to follow the Rube Goldberg sequence of improbable events rather than just have another person shooting energy blasts.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:30 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
This reminds me, has the confusion about Psylocke's possibly retconned past been cleared up? I thought it was odd when I first found out.

Interesting news about Wanda and Pietro. I think their story could be done without Magneto, after all they weren't even his kids when they first appeared, but I have no sweet clue how they're gonna do the characters if they can't call them mutants.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:38 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (The Flash)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
Y'know, I can see Fox sticking Pietro & Wanda in the background just so they can claim them, even if they don't intend on using them.

Date: 2013-04-25 07:47 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Did they have named files in the "Computer folders that Mystique copies" scene I wonder?

Date: 2013-04-25 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I'm certain we've seen them like that before at the VERY least, if not in the background, but the article mentions that whoever uses them the most gets the rights, so if Whedon has a big role for them in Avengers 2, they would get the rights.

Date: 2013-04-25 09:37 pm (UTC)
onceaskrull: (Batman: Blake)
From: [personal profile] onceaskrull
In X-men Origins: Wolverine (I know, I'm sorry I'm bringing up its existence at all too), there was a white-haired kid that I think was largely assumed to be Pietro (though never stated). I'm not sure if that would be enough for Fox to win legal rights to the character though.

I'm kind of on the fence about this. On the one hand, I love Pietro (more or less meh to Wanda) so to see the characters on film will be awesome regardless. But on the other, a large part of what makes them interesting to me is their relationship to Magneto. So I'll just hope that whoever wins the arms race does them justice.

Date: 2013-04-25 10:52 pm (UTC)
urkonn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] urkonn
If it's just about sticking them in Marvel could do that in Thor: Dark World. That's basically what they did with Hawkeye and they didn't even have to do that.
Though Fox does have Wolverine before that.

Date: 2013-04-25 08:18 pm (UTC)
damar148: (Default)
From: [personal profile] damar148
I was thinking Monica Bellucci or Eva Green for Wanda

As much as I adore Bellucci, she's pushing 50.

Date: 2013-04-25 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beoweasel
On Livejournal's ONTD community, there was mention of potentially T'challa and Shuri, and honestly, I could go with that.

Date: 2013-04-25 09:39 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
Huh, surprised to hear about Wanda and Pietro, though that makes sound pretty good. I think my biggest fear is that they'll end up having to kick off certain characters to fit everyone in.
Still, I'm hoping for Wasp still for A2.

Date: 2013-04-25 10:03 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Darkstar and Vaguard? They are twins and super-powered. I know they are mutants, and would be better suited to a Black Widow movie. (My ideal Black Widow movie is stuffed with Russian heroes and villains Marvel used during the Cold War. Including the Red Ghost and the Super-Apes.)

Date: 2013-04-25 11:06 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Captain Britain and Psylocke (also twins) Betsy is repeatedly said to be a mutant, but it's never been entirely clear why, since it was always indicated that she got her psionic powers the same place Brian got his physical powers; their Otherworld father.

Date: 2013-04-25 11:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] urkonn
I seem to remember a theory about Coulson becoming The Vision based partially on the fact they mentioned that he was dating a cellist, and that Wanda was a cellist (though I think that wasn't a backed up claim). So I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

As to the back-story, explaining their power, couldn't they say their power is due to them being mutants without getting into any of the X stuff. After all Mutations that give people powers aren't the property of Marvel. It's a thing that's been done in many movies/TV shows/books (Push, Mutant X, Alphas, Heroes).

Date: 2013-04-26 12:07 am (UTC)
bj_l: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bj_l
Aw, Alphona is already off UXF.

Date: 2013-04-26 12:37 pm (UTC)
frutepye: (Default)
From: [personal profile] frutepye
My boyfriend an I were going over other marvel characters and the mcu a while back. Deciding what actors should play them and how to introduce them. I thought that if the mutant thing couldn't work you could make them experiments of the high evoltionary. They did come from Wundagore mountain.

Date: 2013-04-26 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
There was also a while where they were supposed to be the children of Bob Frank, the Whizzer (who simultaenously wins awards for Worst Name and Best Origin- he gained superspeed from a blood transfusion from a mongoose. Not a magic, radioactive, or genetically engineered mongoose, it's just that mongoose blood is some powerful stuff)

Date: 2013-04-26 06:08 pm (UTC)
stolisomancer: Mimic, from "Rusty & Co." (mimic)
From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
As much as I appreciate that they're trying to put some of their more infamous characters into more sensible clothing, it's probably a good idea to stop drawing them as if they're still in five-inch heels.

Either that or Psylocke's a lifelong ballerina and she's standing en pointe.

Date: 2013-04-26 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Given what her belt/scarf/sash thing is doing, I assumed she was in the process of spinning about in the air. Which leaves no real reason for her foot to pointed like that, but at least removes the issue of her actually trying to support her weight on it.

Date: 2013-04-26 08:27 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Joss Whedon has said he's an Adam Warlock fan. And Warlock has a sister os sorts in Her/Kismet. Kismet was Warlok's "sister" in the sense she was also created by the Enclave.

Adam Warlock and Kismet would be a VERY interesting brother/sister pair to drop into an Avengers movie.

Date: 2013-04-27 08:48 am (UTC)
mola_ram: let's put a smile on that face (Default)
From: [personal profile] mola_ram
Especially when Thanos pops up :D

Date: 2013-05-24 02:31 am (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
Hmmm... this could actually work out for both companies. By introducing the Maximoff siblings in Days of Future Past, Fox gets to ride the coattails of the extremely successful Avengers franchise, while Disney/Marvel is allowed to gloss over Pietro and Wanda's origins in the second Avengers movie.


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