Date: 2023-07-27 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
...so...what happened with Norman and the goblin formula injection?

And is it just me or does it look like those sectioned tentacles has eyes like Otto's goggles? Did he REALLY give them eyes that can emote?
Edited Date: 2023-07-27 07:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-07-27 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tcampbell1000
Turns out Norman already has a lot of goblin formula in his veins as it is, so it really didn't make much difference. Turns out he's been injecting himself for like MONTHS just to make sure that he can handle it through a combination of built-up immunity and really not WANTING to be a kill-crazy supervillain.

"But," you may ask...

A) "Why was Norman wailing as if the world was ending last issue, if he KNEW that the goblin serum was going to have no effect on him? I mean, besides 'we needed a cliffhanger.'"

B) "Isn't taking a lot of goblin serum just to make sure it doesn't work on you a RIDICULOUSLY DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS THING TO DO? Like, even if Sane Norman came up with some safeguards, surely Crazy Norman could disable the same?"

C) "Wasn't the whole rationale for Kamala joining Oscorp to 'keep an eye on Osborn' so he didn't do something exactly like that? Aren't we implying that Kamala wildly failed at her one secret hero job?"

D) "For that matter, wasn't 'keeping an eye on Norman' a big part of why PETER started working at Oscorp? No one...no one caught this, huh? NEITHER superhero and ZERO other employees thought to check stockpiles or monitor activity to make sure the single most famous ex-supervillain in the Marvel Universe wasn't juicing again? Huh. HUH."

E) "If the point of Norrman's arc here is 'it was the person who made the power, not the power that made the person, what matters is WHO YOU ARE and not what gets imposed on you,' then why is there ALSO an arc wherein wearing Doctor Octopus's tentacles mess Peter up faster than if he were holding Sauron's One Ring? It's kind of funny, sure. But if Otto really wanted to take Norman's goodness from him, could he have gotten better results by wiring Norman up to a spare pair of tentacles?"

To any or all of these questions, there can only be one reply: Pointing to the sky behind the questioner, shouting "LOOK, A SPACESHIP!", and running away.

EDIT TO ADD: Okay, okay, it seems like Norman was saying "My body's absorbed so much goblin serum over the years that I basically have more of it than blood in my system at any time, regardless of how much extra gets injected into me." You could take that to mean he's not still putting anything in. But still, the only way he could know that he was immune would be to test it, right? And the only meaningful test he could make would have to have been after the sin-cleanse, right? Right? Okay, I'm Kronk staring at the map here, gotta put this thought-train down and get back to work.
Edited Date: 2023-07-27 08:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-07-28 12:09 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
I submit that it could have simply been a working hypothesis that Otto actually put to the test, seemingly confirming Norman's theory.

Date: 2023-07-28 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tcampbell1000
That's a sound reading for part of it. But I really can't get my head around Norman's "PLEASE GOD NOOOO, NO, FOR THE LOVE OF HUMANITY DON'T DO THIS eat a dick you idiot i knew all along that that wouldn't work" transition.
Edited Date: 2023-07-28 01:44 pm (UTC)

Date: 2023-07-28 07:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
I haven’t been following this story, but that actually sounds like the kind of trolling Osborn would do to stick it to someone he disliked.

Date: 2023-07-29 12:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Well, it was an untested theory, and for good reason. Once he knew the truth...

Though I like Laughing Tree's idea, too.

Date: 2023-07-28 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tcampbell1000
Makes as much sense as anything else!

Date: 2023-07-27 08:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
For a moment there. I thought Otto switched minds with Peter again. I wonder if Peter keep the mechanical metal arm?

Date: 2023-07-27 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Nah, the arms have been friend-zoned.

Date: 2023-07-27 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
What is it with Peter and bad breakups with his costumes?

Date: 2023-07-27 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I disagree. Peter seems to be trying to end things on good terms with the arms so he doesn't have another symbiote situation.

(I swear, only Spidey could turn his dirty laundry into a supervillain)

Date: 2023-07-28 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
I mean we're only hearing his side of it

Date: 2023-07-28 10:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Well, yeah. Otto didn't make those things with sign language in mind.

*tapping tentacles*

"Is that Morse Code?"

"I think so"

"What's it saying?"

"H.E.N.T.A...ctually, never mind"

*tentacles droop sadly*

Date: 2023-07-27 11:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Say what you will about Wells but he's funny. Sometimes intentionally.

Date: 2023-07-28 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Google says: Ālea iacta est ("The die is cast") is a variation of a Latin phrase (iacta alea est [ˈjakta ˈaːlɛ. a ˈɛs̺t]) attributed by Suetonius to Julius Caesar on 10 January 49 BC, as he led his army across the Rubicon river in Northern Italy.

Also, I thought the Goblin Serum was a "one and done" situation. Like the Super Solider Serum.

Date: 2023-07-28 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I just assumed Otto was a big nerd and the Sinister Six started as an attempt at a D&D group.

Who can even keep track of how the Goblin formula works?

Date: 2023-07-29 06:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
Now that we’re not dealing with talking about things in as obtuse and oblique ways as possible or doing disappointing revelations or fridging a young woman, this is pretty solid. Damning with faint praise, but I honestly have liked the last couple issues and am looking forward to the wedding and gangland drama.

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