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My next post for Spider-Marriage Week is a page that actually takes place long before they were married--or even a couple--but is nevertheless the first significant turning point in the Peter/Mary Jane relationship. And it gets me every time.

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The final page of ASM #122, the issue immediately after Gwen Stacy's death, and following the death (at that time) of Norman Osborne.

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Date: 2009-11-27 07:04 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
And this is why MJ is great (and caring and unexpected) and any man who makes a deal with the Devil to lose such a woman just so that his 80 year dying aunt (who told him to leave her be) can live is an idiot. Or to be put it more bluntly the people (*cough*JoeQ*cough*) who would make Peter do such a thing are idiots.

Date: 2009-11-27 08:49 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Hmmm, you're right. And if you-know-who is reading this I'm sorry. But the idea itself is still idiotic. How's that?

Date: 2009-11-27 10:41 pm (UTC)
geoffsebesta: (Default)
From: [personal profile] geoffsebesta
Yeah, now you're accurate.

Date: 2009-11-27 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Not much else to say other than "Great moment."

I am curious about the next issue teaser. Is that supposed to be Luke Cage? Or a villain they were trying to make back then?

Date: 2009-11-27 07:31 pm (UTC)
box_in_the_box: (Default)
From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
Which is why trying to force Mary Jane back into the role of shallow party-girl is so utterly wrong-headed, because she'd already outgrown that role after the death of Gwen Stacy, before 90 percent of the people currently reading or writing comics were even born.

Date: 2009-11-27 07:51 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Tom DeFalco and Gerry Conway did a lot to say the shallow party-girl be a persona MJ put on since her life back in Pittsburgh was so miserable.

Did they ever try to explain this scene with the added fact MJ knew Peter was Spider-Man?

Finally, I first got this issue in an early MARVEL TALES reprint that curiously left out this last page. I never understood why they did that.

Date: 2009-11-27 08:55 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
Yes. Which is way I can (still) never buy the idea that her shacking up/or close to it with that steroid-filled selfish douche-y actor in Hollywood made any sense at all, unless she was filled with self-loathing. But that's something we never saw - in fact until she he insulted her and she dumped him she seemed very into Whatshisname (and this is supposedly the same non-superficial MJ who dated both Harry and Peter when they were part of the "non-cool" crowd).

Date: 2009-11-27 07:57 pm (UTC)
halialkers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halialkers
Damn. Who had the idea to break this relationship up in the first place? It was one of the few decent well-written relationships in comics. >.>

Date: 2009-11-27 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Great scene.

Okay, I must admit I've never quite been able to forgive MJ for the effect she had on Felicia's character (something I think she has never quite recovered from). But this is an excellent scene.

Date: 2009-11-29 05:34 am (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
What effect?

Date: 2009-11-29 03:01 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (marvel: black cat squares)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Why are you blaming a fictional character for the decisions of the writers? It's hardly MJ's fault that the only way the contemporary creative team could handle writing Felicia out after the marriage was to turn her into a stalker-psycho.

Date: 2009-11-29 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
For the same reason people blame Scott for being written shittily occasionally?

Or y'know, any other character ever?

Date: 2009-11-29 03:47 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (utena: juri in orange)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Well, I've never understood that either, so. *shrug*

Date: 2009-11-29 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
To be fair, "blame" is probably the wrong word, it's more "This character gives me associations that makes me angry/annoyed enough that it is bothersome."

Date: 2009-11-29 04:41 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (Default)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Fair enough.

Date: 2009-11-27 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scenesaroundjackson.wordpress.com
i've always loved this scene

(and damn, that's some nice art)

Date: 2009-11-27 10:07 pm (UTC)
wetstereorebel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wetstereorebel
...drooool....

MJ was hot.

Date: 2009-11-28 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hyperactivator
Okay so I'm reading Cup 'o Joe in my other tab and the words MJ and baby apeared in the same sentence.

My stomach just droped out.

Date: 2009-11-28 03:50 pm (UTC)
felinephoenix: Thanks for being sarcastically understanding. (buffy - lil!buff & lil!will)
From: [personal profile] felinephoenix
That can't mean anything good. No matter how much I want to.

Date: 2009-11-28 05:22 am (UTC)
lovenkisses: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lovenkisses
Awsomeness

Date: 2009-11-28 02:16 pm (UTC)
joysweeper: (Xmas Spidey)
From: [personal profile] joysweeper
I love this scene.

Date: 2009-11-28 03:49 pm (UTC)
felinephoenix: Thanks for being sarcastically understanding. (spidey - pete/mj: sarcastic love)
From: [personal profile] felinephoenix
MJ's Crowning Moment of Awesome, right here.

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