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Whew! Didn't think I'd get this one up this week! Finding internet while on a road trip is damn tricky, especially in the rural South. Lord knows if I'll even get next week's posted at all.
In last week's post about a time when Harvey became a vigilante to thwart Two-Face, I made direct comparison to the episode of BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES entitled "Judgment Day," wherein Two-Face gained a third personality who became a vigilante known as "The Judge."
I've already complained on why I hated the Judge for botching what could have been a great concept--Harvey's good side manifesting as a vigilante--but thankfully, Ty Templeton used the Judge as a jumping-off point for an excellent issue of BATMAN: GOTHAM ADVENTURES:

This issue starts with Harvey attacking Jay and Silent Bob:


Harvey becoming a vigilante would be all well and good, except the twist is that he's going after his own men during his own heists.
His psychiatrist tells Batman that she switched his coin with a trick coin that would always land good side up, which wouldn't have been a problem before the Judge manifested. That aspect of Harvey's personality has condemned Two-Face to death, and even now that Harvey's good side is in control whenever the clean side comes up, he's pretty much trying to get himself killed.
Thus, Batman intervenes the next time Two-Face pulls a heist (and betrays his own henchmen):


Eventually, Harvey commandeers an airplane from another pair of henchmen, sending them over the edge with parachutes. Which is where Batman finally corners him:



Batman ends up saving him, of course, saying, "With me, luck is never an option. It will get better, Harvey. I promise." Really, that's not much encouragement for the poor bastard, is it? But then, no one ever considered Batman to be the best emotional guidance counselor.
What's worth noting here is that there's pretty much no trace of "Big Bad Harv" in this Two-Face. There were three big Two-Face stories written by Ty Templeton on the DCAU Batman comics (the second one, "Lucky Day," was posted a couple weeks ago), and thinking about them now, his dark side was barely present at all.
Back in BATMAN AND ROBIN ADVENTURES #22 (which I'll post down the line), the psychiatrist assures Batman that Harvey's finally managed to control his anger. That still seems to be the case with this Two-Face, who's no longer a monster half the time but just a tormented, deeply screwed-up guy.
So maybe that's why Batman promised that it'll get better, because he really is, but it'll be a long and painful recovery (if it's to happen at all). Either way, it's gonna suck to be him.
In last week's post about a time when Harvey became a vigilante to thwart Two-Face, I made direct comparison to the episode of BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES entitled "Judgment Day," wherein Two-Face gained a third personality who became a vigilante known as "The Judge."
I've already complained on why I hated the Judge for botching what could have been a great concept--Harvey's good side manifesting as a vigilante--but thankfully, Ty Templeton used the Judge as a jumping-off point for an excellent issue of BATMAN: GOTHAM ADVENTURES:

This issue starts with Harvey attacking Jay and Silent Bob:


Harvey becoming a vigilante would be all well and good, except the twist is that he's going after his own men during his own heists.
His psychiatrist tells Batman that she switched his coin with a trick coin that would always land good side up, which wouldn't have been a problem before the Judge manifested. That aspect of Harvey's personality has condemned Two-Face to death, and even now that Harvey's good side is in control whenever the clean side comes up, he's pretty much trying to get himself killed.
Thus, Batman intervenes the next time Two-Face pulls a heist (and betrays his own henchmen):


Eventually, Harvey commandeers an airplane from another pair of henchmen, sending them over the edge with parachutes. Which is where Batman finally corners him:



Batman ends up saving him, of course, saying, "With me, luck is never an option. It will get better, Harvey. I promise." Really, that's not much encouragement for the poor bastard, is it? But then, no one ever considered Batman to be the best emotional guidance counselor.
What's worth noting here is that there's pretty much no trace of "Big Bad Harv" in this Two-Face. There were three big Two-Face stories written by Ty Templeton on the DCAU Batman comics (the second one, "Lucky Day," was posted a couple weeks ago), and thinking about them now, his dark side was barely present at all.
Back in BATMAN AND ROBIN ADVENTURES #22 (which I'll post down the line), the psychiatrist assures Batman that Harvey's finally managed to control his anger. That still seems to be the case with this Two-Face, who's no longer a monster half the time but just a tormented, deeply screwed-up guy.
So maybe that's why Batman promised that it'll get better, because he really is, but it'll be a long and painful recovery (if it's to happen at all). Either way, it's gonna suck to be him.
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Date: 2010-02-17 01:52 am (UTC)That's Harvey in a nut-shell, I guess. I think if he is written consistently like that, it isn't much of a stretch to imagine up an arc where Harvey genuinely turns good.
Also, why did they just switch to the split suit when he was wearing a more awesomer get-up on the cover and the first few pages? Yes, he is still wearing the split suit under the coat and hat but he looks much cooler with the coat, hat and scarf then without.
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Date: 2010-02-17 03:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 05:47 am (UTC)Still, the grey overcoat is a nice touch...
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Date: 2010-02-17 02:39 am (UTC)But bein' this is a .44 Magnum and will blow your head cleeen off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
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Date: 2010-02-17 03:37 am (UTC)That's Harvey's insanity in all it's stark simplicity.
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Date: 2010-02-17 05:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 07:34 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-20 04:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 05:38 am (UTC)Also: I shall always adore and be creatively indebted to the Timm style. I love how it looks here especially.
Also: did not realize it was Two-Face Tuesday! I did a sketch by coincidence
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Date: 2010-02-20 04:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 10:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 02:32 pm (UTC)Or maybe it's also the panel composition. It seems like every panel has Harvey's face reflecting how much of what he's doing is Two-Face and how much is himself. Like the panel where he rules lawyers about his coin is all Harvey, and the panel where he runs from the cops is all Two-Face.
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Date: 2010-02-19 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-20 04:17 am (UTC)This was, however, the last we saw of Harvey's tortured internal struggle in the DCAU.