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With the possible casting of Chris Evans as Captain America and as Siege event heads to a close, let us reflect on the gravitas that will be required of the Sentinel of Liberty and the last time Asgard took arms against U.S. forces in Avengers #63 (or #478, depending on what you follow).



Scene - the conclusion of the Standoff storyline, as he European country of Slovokia has come under attack, and people are praying to King Thor of Asgard for help. As their adopted deity, the Mighty Thor comes into battle with the full of Asgard at his back, with the other side using Stark technology and U.S. support. Which brings in Iron Man, in his custom made ThorBuster armor. Dr. Doom is playing both sides and triggers the fight between Odin powered Thor and Iron Man in his version of the Destroyer armor.


The fight itself between the two friends is awesome, but I don't bring up that fight for the raw power both warriors unleash on one-another.

I bring it up for this crowning moment of respect.

Cap comes in, knows Doom is playing both sides and wants to stop them. He talks Thor down, but then Doom remote triggers a weapon on Thor, and Thor swats Cap away to the U.S. army's side of the conflict. And scene....









Above the rage of a Thunder God and the arsenal of the deadliest battle armor on the planet unleashed upon one another is the sound of Captain America. Your damn right your going to listen.

*mods, the subsequent panels above come from two pages of the comic, minus the Thor vs. Iron Man faceoff.


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char: Captain America/Steve Rogers
char: Thor Odinson/Donald Blake
char: Iron Man/Tony Stark

Date: 2010-12-30 01:24 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Captain America holding hands with Iron Man-Let's not fight, let's get along (Cap/Iron Man-Let's not fight)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
The difficulty is on the subordinate, who is generally indoctrinated to obey, who must exercise that 'ordinary sense and understanding' to decide if an order is illegal or not.

My spouse--who is a military lifer and actually deals with the real world of this--reminds me that we're talking about grey areas on both sides in this specific case. And as a lawyer tells us, the devil is in the details.

In the real world, SHIELD (like the CIA) wouldn't be allowed to operate inside the borders of the United States, except as advisors/observers. The US is far more wary of their/our black ops groups than people think, and we/they are especially wary of foreign powers (which SHIELD was at this time), no matter how many Americans are in it, using any kind of power within the US of A.

XP Trying to apply real world law to fantasy worlds and fantasy law and fantasy black ops groups is giving me a headache.

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