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Fiiiinally got my copy, glee (though online scans for this post, 'cause my scanner's kaput)!

Tears, a shitload of exposition, and four scans from Avengers vs. Atlas #4.

A huge writhing mass of timey-wimey stuff has swallowed up the current New Avengers and spat out the original founders in their places. After the prerequisite confusion and fight with Atlas, the timey-wimey stuff shows up again, and all focus turns to it. Attempting to go near it is a bad idea, since it fucks with anyone who touches it (Bob is regressed to his 50s Marvel Boy self, the Hulk returns, and Iron Man's shoved back into the golden armor, for example). They manage to get to the heart of the matter, however, when Janet realizes it's trying to contact her, and using a fusion of her voice with Venus', they discover that the part of the entity that's trying to reach her is actually Hank, who's both there physically and trapped inside the thing temporally. Bob creates a mental loop between all of them and the entity through Hank to find out what the hell's going on.

It turns out that in the original fight with Kang, the catalyst for this whole mess, a future version of Kang had showed up to help his previous self. Problem was, neither of the Kangs was experienced enough to know this was a fixed point in time, a point that can't be changed, and by trying to do so, they merely split off alternate versions of the Avengers trapped within the pocket of Kang's ship ("alternates without an alternate dimension" as Hank called it). In an effort to keep them all from being killed when the time-bubble-of-sorts collapsed, Hank used Kang's tech to try and find a point in the 616-verse where they could exist, using Jan as the tether because she would be the easiest for him to track.

Only...that didn't work so well. While it was a good plan in theory, when he finally reached a point in time that was malleable enough to be suitable for them to exist in, there was no tether, because it was after 616-Jan had been killed. Because there was no tether, there was no control, and Kang's tech mutated Hank (he gets sucked back into the time-wimey thing) and began collecting other "failed possibilities" (alternate events and people stranded in the void) into a giant time virus that would wipe out the current timeline to replace it with itself. They can wipe out the virus to protect the current timeline, but there's an almost certain chance that doing so will cause these Alter-Avengers to cease to exist altogether, since they'll have nowhere and nowhen to go.

They succeed in destroying the chrono-virus and restoring the timeline as established, and the alter-Hank and alter-Jan get a very brief reunion before the alter-Avengers are time-wiped from existence and the New Avengers are brought back from wherever the virus sent them.

tags: char: ant-man/wasp/hank pym, char: captain america/steve rogers, char: captain america/bucky barnes, char: gorilla man/ken hale, char: hulk/bruce banner char: jimmy woo, char: marvel boy/the uranian/robert grayson, char: ms. marvel/carol danvers, char: namora/aquaria nautica neptunia, char: power man/luke cage, char: spider-man/peter parker, char: thor, char: wasp/janet van dyne, char: wolverine/logan/james howlett, creator: gabriel hardman, creator: jeff parker, group: agents of atlas, group: avengers, publisher: marvel comics

Date: 2010-04-23 06:55 pm (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Looks great, there's just one minor thing in those last panels that's probably not the fault of the writer and artist that's annoying me:

They STILL haven't renovated Avengers' Mansion? What kind of effed-up memorial is a slowly collapsing ruin? Argh!

Date: 2010-04-23 07:01 pm (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Yeah, that sounds good.

Date: 2010-04-23 07:02 pm (UTC)
colonel_green: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colonel_green
It's going to be the New Avengers' HQ, from what Bendis has said.

Date: 2010-04-23 09:27 pm (UTC)
e_307: (Default)
From: [personal profile] e_307
Huh. Wonder where the Young Avengers are gonna go now that they're apparently getting booted out of their 'meeting place'.

Date: 2010-04-23 07:29 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
Well this is Marvel New York. The entire city is destroyed once a year they have more pressing reconstruction efforts.

Date: 2010-04-24 05:26 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Isn't it right near those shiny new twin towers?

Date: 2010-04-24 06:01 pm (UTC)
ulf_boehnke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ulf_boehnke
Let me see...

Twin towers - The ruins are gone and the fundament for the shiny new towers are under construction.

Avengers mansion - The ruins are still there and there is no new construction.

In other words - the situation is not comparable. At all.

Date: 2010-04-24 06:14 pm (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
I was simply pointing out their proximity. Others might not pick up on where Al's is located.

Date: 2010-04-26 02:24 pm (UTC)
citygod: (Default)
From: [personal profile] citygod
I'm pretty certain the mansion is based on the Frick Mansion, on the east side of Central Park, at 70th. So, no, a good 70 blocks and half the island away from the Twin Towers/Wall Street.

Date: 2010-04-23 07:26 pm (UTC)
colonel_green: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colonel_green
A couple of notes on the tags. It should be:

"captain america/bucky barnes"

"ms. marvel/carol danvers"

"namora/aquaria nautica neptunia"

Date: 2010-04-23 07:43 pm (UTC)
colonel_green: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colonel_green
I was actually the first person to use that tag, way back in March 2009.

Date: 2010-04-24 06:59 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
Okay, that last one seems a little nitpicky. :P

Date: 2010-04-24 07:16 pm (UTC)
colonel_green: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colonel_green
"Neptunia" was spelled "Neptunica" originally.

Date: 2010-04-25 05:28 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter

Date: 2010-04-25 09:46 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (Default)
From: [personal profile] skalja
There's no nitpicky about it. The better the suggested tags match to the official tags, the easier it makes life for the mods.

ETA: Just to clarify, I am no longer a mod. However, I speak from experience when I say that correct tags save the mod team a LOT of time in tagging, and that's time they can then devote to other community issues.
Edited Date: 2010-04-26 12:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-26 03:27 am (UTC)
badficwriter: Flying saucer-I WANT TO BELIEVE (Default)
From: [personal profile] badficwriter
Somebody needs to update Cable's tag then, cuz he's definitely not using his full name!

Date: 2010-04-26 10:23 am (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (Default)
From: [personal profile] skalja
Drop a line to the mods.

Date: 2010-04-23 08:52 pm (UTC)
protogarrett: (Default)
From: [personal profile] protogarrett
The idea of having a public base always seemed silly. It says, "hey bad guys, here's our address, feel free to attack at your leisure." Plus, the mansion is in the middle of New York. Considering how much shit goes down it should be in plum smack middle of nowhere Antarctica so the surrounding area and its many civilians aren't killed in the constant fighting.

Date: 2010-04-24 12:09 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
Yeah, they might as well have a giant A on a mountain or island to call their base!

Date: 2010-04-24 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] psychopathicus_rex
Well, that tugged at the ol' heartstrings. Not just the Avengers, the ORIGINAL Avengers, Stan and Jack's Avengers, being as truly and properly heroic as only they could be - going out in a blaze of glory, and doing it with style. *sniff* Shine on, you crazy diamonds.
One minor nitpick, though - I'm pretty certain that the original tin-can Iron Man suit did NOT have the glowing power battery in the chest.


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