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[sd_admin]

First an announcement: While modbot seemed like a good idea at the time, it's proved to be unpopular with members. From now on we'll be using it only for admin posts, so that they can be edited by all members of the mod team.


We know that some members have had issues with the community and the mod team, and felt like they couldn't bring them to our attention. Here is your chance. If you've got a question, concern or suggestion about Scans Daily, here's where you can post it.

This post will be linked to in our profile, and checked regularly by the mods. Comments won't be screened, so you can suggest amongst yourselves.

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[recognitions]

"I tend to absolutism myself, binary thinking and high standards, and so I leap easily to the very worst case scenario and thinking the worst of people."

Not sure why the rest of us are supposed to reorient our lives to accomodate this.

[cmdr_zoom]

I'm not certain that I expressed a desire or an imperative that you should, but in the interest of discussion, I'll concede the point and respond: should I, then, reorient my life to accommodate yours? On what basis should that be determined? Or is this another (false) binary, and should other options be considered?

Please forgive me for waxing philosophical; it's been that kind of day. As another example, what if we could actually accept other beings as equals, rather than holding ourselves just that little bit superior? Would we still be "human"?

[skalja]

Yes, that's a false binary, and one which has no relation to what's going on in this conversation, to boot. We can be mutually considerate of each other's needs, and when our needs come into conflict we can discuss it as a group or part ways. However, for needs to conflict, both needs need to be legitimate and somewhat on parity. Your concern over someone hurting you by wildly overreacting to an offensive comment you might possibly make in the future is not remotely in parity with other members' concerns about people already having hurt them by being offensive. Therefore, their concern comes before yours.

You're waxing philosophical over abstractions to avoid dealing with reality, and in doing so you are hurting other members of this community. Please stop.

[cmdr_zoom]

Done.

[recognitions]

skalja said it. Nobody's asking you to reorient your life for any one person. You're in a community. You have an obligation to either abide by the community rules as they've been set up, or break them and deal with the consequences. And the first step towards accepting other people as equals involves realizing that some people are treated more equal than others in this world, and that doesn't magically disappear once you go on the internet.

[mad]

I think it would be useful for you to learn the difference between equality and equity.

[cmdr_zoom]

I shall consider it. And I apologize for breaking the comment chain.

[mad]

This illustrates the difference between equity and equality, albeit in the context of American libraries.

No worries about the comment chain, I responded before you'd edited yours.

[cmdr_zoom]

That's true. And in this comm, it's you who are fortunate to fall into the "more equal than others" category.

I had been feeling better about this whole thing, after the resolution further down thread, but you've managed to pretty much completely destroy that with your constant baiting and belittling of me. I am tired, I am fed up, and - since the responsibility falls on me to step back - as of this moment I am taking a week's sabbatical from all of s_d.

Enjoy the week of celebration and your personal victory over teh evulz of opreshun. And all you had to do was grind down another human being's enthusiasm for this community.

[recognitions]

"And in this comm, it's you who are fortunate to fall into the "more equal than others" category."

Excuse me? What the fuck does that mean?

And oh please, come down from the cross. Point out one thing I said that was belittling you in any way. Nobody's under any obligation to treat you like a special snowflake; if we think you're wrong, we're going to say so. But have fun with your "I'm quitting the Fantastic Four!" moment. Like I said before, if it's too much work for someone to check their own privilege in the name of considering other people's feelings, I'm happy for them to go elsewhere.