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First an announcement: While modbot seemed like a good idea at the time, it's proved to be unpopular with members. From now on we'll be using it only for admin posts, so that they can be edited by all members of the mod team.
We know that some members have had issues with the community and the mod team, and felt like they couldn't bring them to our attention. Here is your chance. If you've got a question, concern or suggestion about Scans Daily, here's where you can post it.
This post will be linked to in our profile, and checked regularly by the mods. Comments won't be screened, so you can suggest amongst yourselves.
We know that some members have had issues with the community and the mod team, and felt like they couldn't bring them to our attention. Here is your chance. If you've got a question, concern or suggestion about Scans Daily, here's where you can post it.
This post will be linked to in our profile, and checked regularly by the mods. Comments won't be screened, so you can suggest amongst yourselves.
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Date: 2010-07-21 06:15 am (UTC)As for the examples I gave, I see that I did not manage to explain my concern over them properly. I'll try once more, but try to do it a shorter form. What was said in the initial discussion was stupid as hell and there is no defending it. When the transpost was made, several people did express that they felt it was out of place post to make for several reasons. Some of those reasons a bit more reasonable than others. There was disagreement, which is expected as we are all humans after all. Now when the mods reacted, in my opinion their reactions could be divided in to two categories. Those who explained rationally and even respectfully why they felt this kind of a post was necessary. I thought those replies were actually pretty good and helped me to understand why it was made, even if I would have personally still preferred that the original context given in another form.
Then, and again this is about my perception, some mods reacted in a very hostile and condesending manner to those expressing their concerns over such a post and even implied that all doubters were just being transphobic. This did not really smooth things over and with those confronted in this manner didn't calm down, the hostility increased and others joined in.
There are rarely winners in arguments over the internets, to be truthful, and all sides can say pretty stupid things, especially people who find themselves on the defense. In turn if someone feels that they are being ignored or offended, it is a natural reaction to become agitated or angry over that. My main concern has been over mod behaviour, as I would expect them to try to diffuse things if they see such instances or modarate it, as the name implies. They don't have to be neutral, but to not to use insulting language or act with hostility, as they are supposed to be the people trusted in these situations.
Again, TL:DR version. If I have the perception, justified in my opinion of course as are all perceptions, that some of the mods have acted in a insulting manner or even begun confrontations in a hostile manner and name calling, then if I get in to an argument, can I trust the mods to intervene in a fair manner. And by the way, just wanted to stress that with fair manner I don't mean telling me that I'm right, but just not insulting me or explaining in a condesending manner.
Even though you may not agree over the necessity of such a concern, which is understandable, I hope that my concern here is at least expressed in a reasonable and understandable manner.
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Date: 2010-07-21 06:28 pm (UTC)I did see a lot of members coming into the discussion with a fairly confrontational attitude, many of whom ignored or outright refused to read the resources they were linked to, many of whom complained loudly and vociferously over a mod post not having a legality scan, many of whom suggested that it was wrong to ask that a comics community be anti-oppression because apparently we're supposed to leave all anti-oppression outside, while people who say oppressive things should be coddled and cajoled into understanding.
Yes, mods did post some mockery, but that didn't define the post. Half the mod comments were not mockery. Given that the majority of the post made it clear to me that many members here feel that it's too much to ask to respect someone like me (and not just me, but given the topic of the post, you know) as a person and a human being in this comm, I'm finding it hard to coax much sympathy for a few flouncing posters who got mocked on their way out the door.