"The most important comics page this year"

[stubbleupdate]

I've not seen it discussed here, but Bendis' Avengers title has a Rip Hunter's Whiteboard moment
From the T&A comes this quotation from Tom Brevoort

And in fact, we've got something of a master plan mapped out for the next few years – and readers will get a taste of it in "Avengers" #5 next week. But as a service to our loyal T&A readers, here's the key excerpt. It's a chart that Old Tony from the future shows to his present-day self, warning him about what is to come. We've fat-packed it with hints and portents of future events, so it ought to provide plenty of fodder for fan speculation-at least that's the hope! And here it is.


Now, some bits are kind of straightforward.

Going from left to right, as far as possible,
Captain America Reborn (self explanatory)
Heroic Age Begins (self explanatory)
Hope Returns (the X-baby)
Nine worlds in disarray (?)
Three (Epting and Hickman's Fantastic Four)
Man without fear (Daredevil)
Throwbacks
Academy Traitor! (Avengers Academy)
Master of Kung Fu (The Immortal Iron Fist?)
What is where Asgard should be (isn't Loki addressing this point sometime soon?)
Five Lights (5 new mutants after Hope's return)
Nova Antiquus (something about Nova?)
Return of the king (Black Panther? Wilson Fisk?)
Night Falls (?)
Iron Lad Returns (?)
Where is Wanda (visual puzzle book for young children)
All Hope Lies in Doom (one of the phrases that future Valeria sent Future Franklin gave to give to present Valeria. I think that it's to do with the Hole full of Dooms that the Council of Reeds has)
Fear without Man (Don't know. Sounds fucking intense)
Galactus Seed (Ditto)
Schizm! (?)
Yesterday's X-Men
What's in the rings (?)
Steve's Vision (The Vision? Or Steve Rogers' Indian drug fuelled vision that inspired him to write his big book of the Marvel Universe?)
Ultron War (the next chapter in Cosmic Marvel?)


Interesting, ish.

Comments

[fifthie]

"Master of Kung Fu (The Immortal Iron Fist?)"

Shang Chi.

[rezonantshine]

"Nine worlds" would seem to suggest something Asgardian. Or Midgardian. Thor, all right? Something Thor-y.

[stubbleupdate]

You don't need to be thorry. Thometimeth we make mithtaketh

[kd_the_movie]

"What's in the rings"

Something to do with The Mandarin maybe?

[stubbleupdate]

He's back now, isn't he?

Fraction's Annual put him back and he's got a film out now.

[silverzeo]

Are they ripping-off Rip Hunter's chalkboard?

[stubbleupdate]

I'm almost certain that I said that in my original post.

*checks*


Yes.

Yes i did.

Twice.

Good spot, though

[stig]

"Our loyal T&A Readers" - did anyone else immediately think it was going to be a double-page cheesecake/beefcake shot of the entire Avengers cast?

[nezchan]

Imagine our disappointment...

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

So Rip Hunter visited the MU too?

[shadowpsykie]

ugh... this is just blatantly ripping off, erm.. rip.... not sure i find THIS interesting at all... well except for the Hope Lies in Doom... I find Valeria far more interesting.

oh.... eww... im getting weird slashy images of Doom and Hope now because of that.....

heehee also i misread Schizm....

[sherkahn]

I hope that "Hope Lies in Doom" doesn't mean what I think it means....

a) Dr. Doom has captured Hope

b) Dr. Doom has transferred Valeria Richard's intellect into himself to replace what was lost during the his clash with the Intelligencia during World War Hulks.

[cainofdreaming]

Five Lights (5 new mutants after Hope's return)

There... are... four... lights!

Return of the king (Black Panther? Wilson Fisk?)

I'm guessing Black Bolt.

Galactus Seed (Ditto)

Galacta's getting a sibling? When's the baby shower?

[qalchemist]

Connected to 'Return of the King' is 'The Drumm of Revenge'

Brother Voodoo is named Jericho Drumm. Maybe this portends the return of Strange as SS? Or some other supernatural event.

[sherkahn]

Stark365crats? Tony's companies?

Born to Burn?
The 1st human torch?

[thokstar]

Don't see anything about Spidey getting his marriage back in the near future. Thanks for letting me know, Marvel!

[bjornwilde]

You know it would be worth it (to me) if the whole mess this chart details was caused by OMD.

[dr_archeville]

Did Reed Richards' "Room Full of Whiteboard" come before Hunter's Whiteboard?

[terrykun]

No.

In the beginning, there was Rip. And we saw that it was good.

[vitruvian23]

Looks like the invasion of the Many-Angled Ones through the Fault (currently happening in Thanos Initiative) didn't register with Old Tony.

[angelophile]

I guess Yesterday's X-men is a reference to this.

[vitruvian23]

Is Old Tony remembering Siege happening before Steve came back (far left)? Could be more different than just Protector.

[valismedsen]

At first I thought it might be alluding to the time when Steve would take on the uniform of Captain America again (since it's almost sure to happen when the movie comes out). But it's placed before the Heroic Age begins, so not a clue. Unless future!Tony call Siege the whole period of time we call Dark Reign...

[glprime]

"Fear without Man (Don't know. Sounds fucking intense)"

Obviously a tie back to Daredevil "Man Without Fear", but possibly referencing a return of the imprisoned Mr. Fear?

[pyrotwilight]

Still hoping the Avengers of the various futures shown in the current Avengers run team up somehow for an interdimensional good time if only to see more of MC2.

[hound_bound]

Where is Wanda would be a Children's Crusade reference, right?

As for Nova Antiquus, might be something yet to come, but could it also be the Corpsman who returned shortly before the Thanos Imperative break? The one who's the new acting drill sergeant?

[filkertom]

Once again, I am filled with so much Who Cares.

I really feel Marvel has lost me. Or driven me away.

[seriousfic]

Spider-Man gets married, Spider-Man gets married... can't find it, don't care.

[stubbleupdate]

They don't even have the Cage/Jones wedding, or the first coming of Galactus, or Shadowland, or about a significant amount of other important things.

I wouldn't get unduly stressed about this exclusion

[big_daddy_d]

Hmm, some of these things happened already..thank god..so won't have to worry about blowing a mental fuse with more events..although the Ultron War seems like an event..it might be another in the Cosmic Marvel or it'll be an Avengers arc.

As for "What's in the rings?" I'm guessing that's a Mandarin reference.

Also must add

[big_daddy_d]

Academy Traitor! (Avengers Academy)

Well I saw this coming since issue 1. Likely candidates:

Striker (no. 1 choice because out of everyone, he just seems most likely and doesn't seem to have a heroic bone in his body).

Finese (I don't think she's bad, but idk, she's unpredictable. I think she could be a good hero a la Dexter, but then again, you never know).

Hazmat (anger issues. The ones with angst tend to be easily manipulated and unwittingly betraying others, or just decide to make a full on heel turn)

Quicksilver (because he's Quicksilver)

Night Falls (?)

I'm guessing it might involve The Night Machine.

Iron Lad Returns (?)

About damn time. Let the love triangle begin.

Nine worlds in disarray (?)

I think that's in regard to Asgard.

You know what's missing from there?

Spider-Man rejects Mephisto.

My guesses

[ficticons]

Yesterday's X-Men: I agree with angelophile - it's probably something focusing specifically on once-dead X-Men who are teased to come back.

Steve's Vision: I think it's more likely to be the vision(s) Steve had during the Reborn arc, including (a) possible future(s) for him and Sharon and a war of some sort. I hadn't thought of The Vision, though. If it is that, it could possibly fit in with the events of Children's Crusade, and Iron Lad's return (! which could get interesting) and/or Where is Wanda.

Ultron War (the next chapter in Cosmic Marvel?): could certainly be, given where he went at the end of Mighty Avengers. Cosmic Marvel/Avengers joint story arc, maybe?

[heartsalliance]

I hate these stupid Wall of Science things. Seriously, you can derive the future using only the equations you learned in Calc III? Toss in some high school physics and chemistry to cover all your bases, why don't you....

[halloweenjack]

Meh. I'm seeing a lot of the usual suspects (Ultron, Kang, etc.) and some vague phrases that may mean anything or nothing at all, the kind of stuff that you get when you have a brainstorming session and start to spout out random phrases in an attempt to throw just about everything against the wall to see what sticks. (And which they can end up not using at all, with the explanation that foreknowledge of the future helped to prevent it.)

[recognitions]

I keep looking for something that says "IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!"