ILLUMINATI: Personal responsibility

[starwolf_oakley]

Oracle once wondered if the Bat-family was culpable for the Joker's crimes since they never did anything permanent to stop him. Here's a few pages from the NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI special where a similar discussion about culpability is discussed.





First, a page where the Black Panther shows how smart he is.



T'Challa's smart, but... The problem with the general public of the Marvel Universe is that they are idiots. Some of the smarter idiots are worried superheroes might subjugate those they protect. This isn't Tony's intention here. He just wants to subjugate other superheroes. Which he eventually does. Idiot.

The full two-page spread of Hill and Stark's conversation.



Spider-Man has a simple reason for not killing Osborn: Neither Aunt May nor Uncle Ben would like it. And Spider-Man is now the *only* Marvel Superhero who thinks killing people is wrong.

Comments

[freezer]

Umm... How many times did Spidey actually throw Osborn in jail? After Osborn went on his live TV murder spree is the only time I can think of.

Which is one less time than the govenment has put Osborn in a position of power.

Seriously: Fuck Civil War.

[big_daddy_d]

Umm... How many times did Spidey actually throw Osborn in jail? After Osborn went on his live TV murder spree is the only time I can think of.

Isn't that when Luke Cage owned his ass? I remember that fondly.

[shadur]

One of the reasons I still despise Hill is that despite stellar efforts to make her look badass and on the side of the angels, as far as I can tell nobody in any kind of position of authority has called her on the vast amounts of ethically questionable if not downright ILLEGAL crap she pulled while she was in charge of SHIELD during CW, which she usually tried to justify with stupid comments like the one she makes here.

[valtyr]

nobody in any kind of position of authority has called her on the vast amounts of ethically questionable if not downright ILLEGAL crap she pulled while she was in charge of SHIELD during CW

It's made clear in New Avengers that she was getting orders from a Presidential level, which while it doesn't ethically justify her, explains why she's not getting into trouble now.