Preview for Batman & Robin #23

[whitesycamore]

The preview for B&R #23 is up at The Source





So he's going to look like a ginger Sawyer from Lost in this arc, apparently. I'm hoping against hope that Bruce actually answers Jason's questions about death sincerely, and then they bond by reminiscing about the process of resurrection. :D

Comments

[benicio127]

Even though I hate the retcon and it really just means Morrison's word is the Word of God, God Damn does Jason look the Most Sexiest like hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh ginger Sawyer <3

I cannot believe this is Guillem March. The preview looks Very Promising, though!! I'm actually MORE excited than I already was. AHHH

Also! Inmate 357-428 :D

[whitesycamore]

I still think he should have a shave and get a haircut, the damn hippy. Last time he got all stubbly it lasted for two issues until Talia slept with him, which finally prompted him to do something about his personal grooming.

Obviously she needs to have Words with him again.

[screamsheet.wordpress.com]

Why is Jason in Arkham Asylum? Is that just where all bad guys go in Gotham these days?

I guess that Jason and the Joker being incarcerated in the same place could have some interesting storytelling potential, at least.

[whitesycamore]

Well, he was acting pretty strangely in the last arc. Borderline delusional, definitely.

I'm glad to see he's looking feeling better now though.

[greenmask]

Yes boys yes, that is how you are supposed to sit.

[whitesycamore]

But not if you are sitting on the bus next to me. Seriously, your balls cannot possibly need that much room.*

*Um, hypothetical boys. Not greenmask.

[misterbug]

This will probably annoy some people, but I do actually like the change of physical appearance because it differentiates from the various degrees of fail that have haunted Jason with previous attempts to stuff with him. This is a genuine fresh start, and it feels like one too.

[harpers_child]

arms. nnnggh. that is all.

[star_of_airdrie]

ah yes, I noticed that as well...

and the shacklage. I just realized that I have the keys. Not sure if I'm going to use them yet.

[janegray]

Fuck the red hair.

It looks sexy, true. But I hate that "the bad one" in a family of black-haired good guys (Damian doesn't exactly act like a good guy, but it's heavily implied that deep down he is "his father's son") is a red-head. Talk about stereotypes.

[whitesycamore]

I hate the red hair too, but I am desperately trying to remain optimistic.

[jaybee3]

The first thing that popped into my mind is I guess we're supposed to assume that Talia was dying his hair black for however long he was a vegetable and that Jason himself was dying his hair black for all the time he was Red Hood and the time he posed as Nightwing and the times in Countdown even though Bruce wasn't aware of his existence for the most part and even though he SAID Bruce "made" him to do it. Which makes both Jason and Talia seem more twisted in the head than they were already.

But hey, Morrisonian retcons - whatcha gonna do. At least he's not balding and covered in acne like in Morrison's arc. But what happened to his Lazarus Pit streak?

My second thought was that if this is the way DC is going to depict Jason from now on (basically as an Arsenal clone physically) - it says volumes what the company really thinks about Roy Harper and his status as a viable character (i.e. it's a far cry from when they were giving him a push in the JLA).

[benicio127]

But what happened to his Lazarus Pit streak?

It actually disappeared in B&R #6, though most likely due to a colourist/editing error.

[kurenai-tenka.livejournal.com]

I've had quite a few hours to adjust to it now, but he still looks so totally alienatingly unlike himself. Glad I saw it now rather than tomorrow though lol, time to get used to it. XD

[kd_the_movie]

For the longest time ive wanted editorial to come up with a set template to draw Dick, Jason, and Tim as to differentiate them from each...but this isn't what i've liked. I'm ehhhh about the red hair.

[espanolbot]

re: the Red Hair

Well it was a feature that he had back when he was originally introduced, and if anything it helps to differentiate him from the rest of the blue-eyed, black haired guys in the DCU, the same way the Babs being a red hair or Cass being a brunette makes them different from the rest of the DCU superheroine population, who are mostly blonde women with blue eyes these days.

[icon_uk]

Indeed, though as has been noted, that was a completely different Jason Todd.

[icon_uk]

Maybe they're just setting him up to wear THIS costume again! :)

[whitesycamore]

If there was an accompanying quiche-eating scene I could maybe handle it for an issue or two...

[baxter2814]

Hrm. I really don't approve of appearance-changing, not because I like things to stay the same (on a personal level, I actually like it when characters change their appearance) but because I know it's going to be doubly confusing for new readers who pick up random issues and can't figure out or remember that this guy always equates to the guy in the distinctive costume. In animation, the characters always have the same design. In live-action, the characters have the same actor. In text, the narrator identifies them by name. So in comics, they should have some defining visuals that stay constant, just for the sake of making them easy to recognize out of costume. I'm not saying it has to be anything as blatant as Reed Richards' skunk stripe or Clark Kent's glasses, but just letting a new reader be able to identify the minor players in a confusing story can mean a lot. I can attest to that personally.

[starwolf_oakley]

Some Superman fans think that Lois Lane's distinguishing feature should be purple eyes, which she has had since the 1990s animated series.

[icon_uk]

I should also add I LOVE the splash page with the three of them and the following page. Classic Bat-family-age (Shame Babs isn't around)

[benicio127]

Haha, right? Discowing and Little Wing! Aww, it was really cute. :)

[retro_nouveau]

Continuity FAIL. This only works for me if there are two Jasons, New-Earth!Jason and ... Earth-3 Jason? Jason Prime? I can't believe he would dye his hair and eyebrows to fool everyone, all the time, and for so long, that is creepy beyond reason. Two Jasons would also explain his multiple personality disorder.

[daggerpen]

Agreede.

[harbringer]

oh my god can we just decide on a hair color already

like we're supposed to believe that all throughout UTH and Lost Days that he was dyeing it all the time when he was running around doing fuck all? Seriously? Also how does he have this luscious head of hair when Morrison pulled out that whole RECEDING HAIR LINE FROM TOO MUCH DYE OMG (which is a fucking lie anyway, but) thing?

augh dc get your shit together

[sadoeuphemist]

its red

[nickfury90]

Prior to clicking this link, I was thinking, "Holy shit, its just one page, what could get scans daily so riled up? Dick Grayson change his hair color?"

...I was close!

[mullon]

Man, fuck Morrison and his continuity-fucking bullshit.

[daggerpen]

... but it was black in Lost Days, goddammit.

*curls up in corner and whines about Morrison's ill-thought-out bullshit*

[pepperspray101]

God, this is giving me a headache.. FUCK THIS SHIT.

[blackruzsa]

..... Jason.
That's Jason?
Really? He looks like he belongs a few hundred years in the past in a wild west adventure.

[ebailey140]

Why does Jason's hair shift between red and black?

Because it is the curse of being the Red Hood...








Worst case scenario is your hair turns green.

[airawyn]

Ha! I compared Jason's color-changing hair to Lian's on Tumblr but I forgot they shared a codename!

[pyrotwilight]

Color spectrum hair aside...

Why wouldn't Jason Todd's fingerprints be on file anywhere? He might've been a street kid but that's no reason for his prints not to be ANYWHERE. Or are we to assume Bruce goes out of his way to destroy any material like that for everyone in the family? Seems like it'd be something folks would notice.

[airawyn]

He does go out of his way to erase any records of their fingerprints. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in Batman Annual 25, but I don't know if it was established previously. After Jason clawed his way out of his grave, he was taken to a hospital, but because there was nothing on record about Jason Todd, they had no way to identify the boy. (And he was so badly injured he couldn't remember anything about himself.)

[red_menace]

Does it make a bad fan if, instead of continuity issues and such, all this page makes me think of is that this looks suspiciously like the opening scene of a porn movie?

[baxter2814]

Lulz no! I mean, you're completely right. I didn't even notice that, caught up in the hair-flurry :D

[proteus_lives]

I feel that Jason Todd has the most potential out of any Bat-Character.

[arbre_rieur]

Other than the minor continuity kerfluffle it creates, what exactly is the problem with making Jason Todd a redhead? I don't see how it harms or even affects his character or backstory in a significant way. If nothing else, at least the Robins don't look like a line of clones now.

[arbre_rieur]

Also, didn't Dick call him "Jason Todd" right in front of Gordon and the other cops during the "Red Hood" arc in BATMAN AND ROBIN? And his identity is still a secret?

[recognitions]

Hair is srs bsns.