Polyamory is a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. She just had the misfortune of chosing two guys as immature of Jason and Roy with which to exercise it.
Uh...she wasn't. Jason said the two've gotten it on in the past, and in the issue, she asks Roy if he wants to and they go and do it.
In fact...now that I think about it...it's possible that Jason might be full of shit. We don't see evidence of this, as I recall, and when Roy asks if she's "Jason's girl," she goes as far as to call it "absurd." Is it just because of her being polyamorous, or maybe she's just not that into him in the first place?
I don't really see any reason to doubt that she did have sex with Jason.
when Roy asks if she's "Jason's girl," she goes as far as to call it "absurd." Is it just because of her being polyamorous, or maybe she's just not that into him in the first place?
She said it was absurd because she is free to do what she wants when she wants - i.e she does not belong to him and is not "his" girl. I think she would have mentioned in even stronger terms if it was the idea of sleeping with Jason itself that was absurd to her.
At least it should mean that DC won't try to shoehorn her and Dick back together again. Because there's no way he'd go near her if he found out about that.
Or maybe he would, who the hell knows, with this new "improved" DC universe.
Sex with two attractive women = every straight man's fantasy
Sex with two attractive men = being "gangbanged."
Question: What if two chicks tag team a man but eiffel tower him while they're doing it; is he living the dream, or totally being used? And more importantly, is he still pure enough afterwards to be my waifu?!
Not sure what Waifu is, but I'm going to answer the rest of your rhetorical question!
It depends whether the dude is into it! If he's enjoying it, then sure, he's living the (a) dream. If he's not into it, then it goes rapidly into territory of him being used, depending on exactly why it's happening anyways. Someone engaging in a sexual act they're not particularly enjoying because they enjoy making the other participant(s) happy and/or expect some kind of compensation (sexual, practical, or, IMHO, even financial) is fine. Someone being emotionally blackmailed (IE, "If you love me you'll do this for me,") is a lot skeevier, and it moves right along that scale.
I have a love/hate relationship with GD (and that's after putting aside the beef/cheesecake aspect). On the one hand, fairly diverse cast with some very strong bonds between female characters, characters that are allowed to grow out of their introductory roles, plenty of room for cute, a generally sex-positive attitude, and marriage and a family aren't treated as the worst things you can possibly do to a character.
On the other hand, there was a pretty gross incident of queer erasure and the book still has a lack of queer characters despite damn near literally having a cast of thousands at this point. Also there have been and still are times where the sexual "humor" boils down to harassment or is one thin hair away from a rape joke and it just plain gets creepy. There's also the fact that Fred Perry tends to be a very self-indulgent storyteller -- more than once I've dropped the book in the middle of an arc because it just seemed to start meandering off somewhere that obviously amused the writer, but just left me feeling that it had lost momentum.
There's some stuff that I like, but it's usually the first book on the chop when I decide to start making cuts to my pull list or I'll just stop reading for a while and wander off until something makes me decide to pick it up again.
Now if you just replace Jason Todd with a character who isn't terrible and Arsenal with a character who I can't read without flashing back to like two years' worth of horrifyingly terrible comics, this is pretty good.
The complaints from some quarters here on SD about sex and the particular lifestyles some characters are written to indulge in totally have me dismayed at times. I find it difficult to believe this place is the reason I ended up buying both volumes of Maka Maka a couple of years back.
Obviously, Scott Lobdell horribly misrepresented Starfire because he desperately wanted to win Scans Daily's prestigious "Meme-inspiring moment" award.
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Date: 2011-09-27 03:52 pm (UTC)In fact...now that I think about it...it's possible that Jason might be full of shit. We don't see evidence of this, as I recall, and when Roy asks if she's "Jason's girl," she goes as far as to call it "absurd." Is it just because of her being polyamorous, or maybe she's just not that into him in the first place?
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Date: 2011-09-27 05:31 pm (UTC)when Roy asks if she's "Jason's girl," she goes as far as to call it "absurd." Is it just because of her being polyamorous, or maybe she's just not that into him in the first place?
She said it was absurd because she is free to do what she wants when she wants - i.e she does not belong to him and is not "his" girl. I think she would have mentioned in even stronger terms if it was the idea of sleeping with Jason itself that was absurd to her.
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Date: 2011-09-27 07:11 pm (UTC)Or maybe he would, who the hell knows, with this new "improved" DC universe.
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Date: 2011-09-27 10:24 pm (UTC)Sex with two attractive men = being "gangbanged."
Question: What if two chicks tag team a man but eiffel tower him while they're doing it; is he living the dream, or totally being used? And more importantly, is he still pure enough afterwards to be my waifu?!
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Date: 2011-09-27 11:01 pm (UTC)It depends whether the dude is into it! If he's enjoying it, then sure, he's living the (a) dream. If he's not into it, then it goes rapidly into territory of him being used, depending on exactly why it's happening anyways. Someone engaging in a sexual act they're not particularly enjoying because they enjoy making the other participant(s) happy and/or expect some kind of compensation (sexual, practical, or, IMHO, even financial) is fine. Someone being emotionally blackmailed (IE, "If you love me you'll do this for me,") is a lot skeevier, and it moves right along that scale.
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Date: 2011-09-28 08:45 am (UTC)On the other hand, there was a pretty gross incident of queer erasure and the book still has a lack of queer characters despite damn near literally having a cast of thousands at this point. Also there have been and still are times where the sexual "humor" boils down to harassment or is one thin hair away from a rape joke and it just plain gets creepy. There's also the fact that Fred Perry tends to be a very self-indulgent storyteller -- more than once I've dropped the book in the middle of an arc because it just seemed to start meandering off somewhere that obviously amused the writer, but just left me feeling that it had lost momentum.
There's some stuff that I like, but it's usually the first book on the chop when I decide to start making cuts to my pull list or I'll just stop reading for a while and wander off until something makes me decide to pick it up again.
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Date: 2011-09-27 07:20 pm (UTC)Like... Dick and Garth maybe. That could work.
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