WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN??
Oct. 4th, 2011 02:45 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
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scans_dailyTom Brevoort has a Formspring and he's actually pretty good at answering questions.
In his most recent batch of replies, he tackled things like the recent CATWOMAN/STARFIRE controversy and why Gambit isn't invited to more poker games.
(If you don't remember her, go here.)
In his most recent batch of replies, he tackled things like the recent CATWOMAN/STARFIRE controversy and why Gambit isn't invited to more poker games.
(If you don't remember her, go here.)
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Date: 2011-10-04 06:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-04 07:44 pm (UTC)'Nuff said.
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Date: 2011-10-04 07:48 pm (UTC)...
Well, not the best example. Well, there's Ms. Marvel! They never screwed her over! Well, except for that time she was raped....
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Well, what about Scarlet...Witch...
I'm just gonna go sulk in my corner now.
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Date: 2011-10-04 07:48 pm (UTC)I never got the "oversexualized objectification" vibe from her.
In regards to Cammi...I was hoping she'd show up in Thanos Imperative. But Drax is dead anyway :( *im still mad about Marvel scuttling away the Post Annihilation Cosmic!Marvel*
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Date: 2011-10-04 07:59 pm (UTC)That's not what was happening. That was Moonstone passing all the guys on her team to her. Agency: it matters.
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Date: 2011-10-04 08:23 pm (UTC)I mean that's not really *better*, but...
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:17 pm (UTC)It's irrelevant to Red Hood and the Outlaws how popular Teen Titans! is, and saying that there's a potential fanbase being left out (kids) isn't even a good argument for why it should go after those audience figures--isn't that the exact same excuse hacks use when they tone down their originally R-rated movies to PG-13? No, I'm not saying Red Hood is automatically a better book when it has sexy, violent content (I'm not interested in Lobdell's take on these characters either way), but if that's the type of book it wants to be and they want to attract an older audience for a book about mercenaries, I don't see why abandoning the Teen Titans! fans is being made into such a fuss.
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:30 pm (UTC)"is" yes, "was", less so I'd say. One of the points of this reboot is to lure new readers into comics, those who grew up with the Teen Titans cartoon which ended five years ago, (and any episode of which pulled in many many times more viewers than any Titans comic has had readers in many a decade) would only have the cartoon as a frame of reference.
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:41 pm (UTC)The characterization was shitty, but not because it "wasn't like the cartoon I grew up with."
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:44 pm (UTC)For other people, I don't think anybody thinks they are obligated to keep her the same. I think its rage that the cartoon Kory (who is arguably the happiest and most bubbly) was a believable variation on the character. To take that (what could have been) and make her this new person, is a couple lunges in the wrong direction.
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:44 pm (UTC)Speaking of targeting the right demo, if Willis really believed his own argument, and really wanted to effect change, he would have aimed his argument at TimeWarner shareholders, not comics readers.
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Date: 2011-10-05 07:46 pm (UTC)But the one time changing something to fit in with the spin-off would actually IMPROVE the character, they have to say "No, let's completely misinterpret Starfire as an emotionless sexbot"
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Date: 2011-10-04 09:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-05 03:18 am (UTC)MarvelDisney's gradual evolution of Wolverine from psycho-berzerker to family-friendly icon has been handled gracefully over the last several years (maybe since he joined the Avengers). I have even come to approve of the way they "sexed up" Squirrel Girl (my fave femme hero) without the crassness of going full-Starfire on her.Notwithstanding the above-cited (and non-cited) "petit-fridging" of females in Marvel and in comics in general, IMHO
MarvelDisney seems to manage their properties SO much better thanDCthe WB marketing department does.As an aside, does anyone else enjoy the irony that Image-style comics sprang from Marvel-style comics, and have now consumed and regurgitated DC comics?
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Date: 2011-10-05 06:06 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-10-05 09:24 am (UTC)Naaaah, I'd say "Vertigo" maybe does a much better job than both these. (Yes! Yes, I know it's part of DC/WB, but I was speaking publishing-brand-wise)
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Date: 2011-10-06 09:00 pm (UTC)