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From a CBR article and preview on the new Ray title

Meet Lucien Gates.... lifeguard, genuinely nice guy, and hero.


From the CBR interview with Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin grey

Gray: Lucien is vastly different in every way except the similarity of light-based powers; he's a lifeguard from San Diego, carefree, easy going, adopted by new age pseudo hippie parents and in love with a girl who works for a talent agency.

Palmiotti: We set out to create a character that the audience can simply relate to in a lot of different ways, someone likable that, when given these abilities, chooses a course of action I think a lot of us would.

Along those lines, who is Lucien Gates? What can you tell us about the character?

Gray: We started thinking about Lucien as represented by light, and with that came the need to do something optimistic and bright, the kind of superhero who is modern and yet still retains some of the old school action hero comics. There's no soul-crushing drive behind his actions, which is why we made him a lifeguard -- to show he had heroic tendencies before gaining superpowers. Much of the series is grounded in Lucien's life outside the costume and how it often serves as an escape. Its like bungee jumping; people do that for the rush and the excitement. Sometimes, they do it to escape their personal lives.


I'm liking what I hear of this, but I've always been a sucker for the "ordinary guy is granted powers whether he likes it or not and makes the best of it" school of origins.

A striking splash page to start with;



And simply because it's Tuesday and I want some eye candy, a scene showcasing Lucien in his OTHER working clothes...



The origin actually makes me think of both Dr Light II (The Kimiyo Hoshi version I hasten to assure you) and the Will Payton Starman from the 1980's. Those are good credentials IMHO.

And as [personal profile] master_nate  mentions below. Jamal Igle has a DA page, which has the original pencils, for those (like me) who like such things.

Date: 2011-11-22 09:54 pm (UTC)
master_nate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] master_nate
I loved the old Ray comic back in the 90's.

Also, I can't explain why,but I don't like the coloring on this. It's just do bland.

I like the pencils though. The artist has uncolored samples on his deviantart site. It looks better in black and white to me.

Date: 2011-11-22 10:51 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
If they want to make a new character why use an existing name? Why not make a new character with a new name and powers from scratch?

Date: 2011-11-22 10:55 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
To maintain claim on the trademark I expect.

Date: 2011-11-23 02:41 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
You're BOTH right. But pretty much whenever you see a character revived it's all about trademark refreshment. Unlike copyright, tm is use-it-or-lose-it.

Date: 2011-11-23 02:41 am (UTC)
aeka: (Catwoman [happy kitty]:)
From: [personal profile] aeka
For the same reason we have different Flashes and many more Green Lanterns?

Date: 2011-11-22 10:59 pm (UTC)
mrosa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrosa
I also like what I read from the interview, but I can't stand that narration. It's so self-aware! I'm weary of super-heroes who start talking about origins and 'random and ridiculous' super-powers as if they're aware of the genre's history and tropes.

Date: 2011-11-22 11:58 pm (UTC)
fifthie: tastes the best (Default)
From: [personal profile] fifthie
Yeah I'd like this better if they just created a chillin optimistic hero instead of having him laboriously tell you how chillin he is unlike those other heroes.

Date: 2011-11-23 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Exactly.

Date: 2011-11-22 11:28 pm (UTC)
drmcninja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drmcninja
Seems like a cool job, but Jesus is that costume awful.

Date: 2011-11-22 11:37 pm (UTC)
master_nate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] master_nate
It looks ok in black and white.

The problem is there's a lot of open space, so the colorist can make or break the image.

Date: 2011-11-23 03:05 am (UTC)
junipepper: (jumplines)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
Yeah, it's... really insipid. I guess better color could help. It certainly couldn't hurt, but that suit wouldn't be great no matter what the colorist did.

Think I'll wait a while on this.

Date: 2011-11-23 11:37 am (UTC)
korilian: (Wanna play?)
From: [personal profile] korilian
What are you talking about? He looks super empowered! XD

Date: 2011-11-23 12:40 am (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Why is Darius punching Cyclops?

Date: 2011-11-23 02:42 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
Oh, extremely this.

Date: 2011-11-23 01:07 am (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
He read some X-Men recently.

Date: 2011-11-23 01:22 am (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
Next question, why isn't EVERYONE punching Cyclops?

Date: 2011-11-23 02:43 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
He might look at you funny.

Date: 2011-11-23 01:01 am (UTC)
kenn_el: Northstar_Hmm (Default)
From: [personal profile] kenn_el
Hmmm....adopted...Lucien Gates....How long before we find out his father was Lucifer?

Date: 2011-11-23 02:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filthysize
"Lightbringer"... It's almost too obvious.

Date: 2011-11-23 02:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
heh, Lucian... cute...

also.... i can't stop staring at his ass and crotch....

Date: 2011-11-23 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
While it's nice that they want to make a likeable new character, I really wish they'd stop canceling the books of the likeable characters they already DO have, or at least stop grimdarkifying them because they're not angsty enough...

Date: 2011-11-23 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
If this is DC's version of likeable then it's no wonder I tend to prefer their 'unlikeable' characters.

I mean, could this guy be *any* more of a blandly sarcastic cardboard-y douche?

Date: 2011-11-23 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Maybe, but he is far from prepossessing in these scans.

Date: 2011-11-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] likeaminx
Woah woah woah... A character who's adopted? REALLY? Oh god please tell me he doesn't have issues about his 'real' parents. PLEASE DC. TELL ME HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THEM. PLEASE GIVE ME THIS.

Date: 2011-11-23 09:22 pm (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
Oh... Oh man FINALLY. I hate how adoption tends to be treated in media. There's usually a ton of emphasis on the birth parents and as someone who was adopted that really annoys me. Bonds over blood people.

Of course we have no idea how Ray's stuff is going to pan out. It could end up being like how Natu who hates Sinestro but keeps having him brought up while the people who made her who she is are totally ignored.

Date: 2011-11-23 10:39 pm (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
.. Ah shit I didn't even think of that. That's totally what's going to happen isn't it ):

Date: 2011-11-23 09:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rocketlindy
I have this issue with SO MANY THINGS.

I like to watch soap operas with my mom, have since I was little, and it gets ridiculous--not in a fun way, either. Character freak out all the time about who their birth parents are, and if there's a question of whether a baby belongs to Boyfriend A or Boyfriend B, it doesn't matter that the girl was screwing two guys--it only matters which one had the luckiest sperm.

The other day I told my mother I think they should just randomize babies at the hospital so no one knows who their birth parents are.

And then there's the whole, lady-who-bought-sperm-from-a-sperm-bank who sued for child support from the sperm donor, or the whole concept of "open sperm donation."

tl;dr I think people who care about genetics when it comes to personal relationships are dumb.

Date: 2011-11-23 10:56 pm (UTC)
likeaminx: (Default)
From: [personal profile] likeaminx
YES I hate that. The people who raised me are my parents not the woman who gave birth to me or the man I never knew. I don't get why it's so hard for people who are creating things to understand that. It always about blood and genetics over anything. I mean, look at Superboy obsessing over his genes because OH NOES ONE SET OF HIS GENES IS FROM A SUPER VILLAIN. Who cares if he has such little contact with the man. Just having his blood means ONE DAY HE MIGHT BE A SUPER VILLAIN TOO OMG

Blood does not say who you are. Blood doesn't say who you'll be. It's just blood.

Date: 2011-11-24 09:51 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
When was the last time Marvel or DC created a new character anyway?
And no, not talking about one of these "team-books" characters which will only live on the pages of these books. So, no, new X-men and Teen Titans don't count here. Just all new original characters.

There were lots of them in the mid-80s to early 90s..then nothing? Just look at DC's New 52 lineup!
I mean character who can support their own title. Not new Bat-family members, Legacy heroes revamps..

At DC I can think of 'Mazin' Man and Keith Giffen characters mostly, like Ambush Bug and Lobo in the 80s, Heckler and Vext in the 90s... Oh and Garbage Man and Tanga more recently!

At Marvel I can only think of...Mmmh... No idea... (Deadpool, X-23 or Red Hulk for example are just new ideas spin off previous titles)
The Runaways maybe? :P

Date: 2011-11-24 01:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
My impressions is that there are characters created, what's difficult is managing to have them keep popular long term, enough to sell a title.

Date: 2011-11-24 01:49 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
True enough.
Well, Booster Gold and Ambush Bug both made it into cartoons and the game DCU Online...so I consider them both the last recently created characters that had success.

(Poor Heckler...sigh...)

The Vertigo/DC characters of the 80s like Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Sandman, etc. where only revamps of ol' DC Characters.
(though the current Vertigo "creator owned characters only" did produce a lot of new and original content...but that's besides the point, I was talking strictly Marvel and DC)

Date: 2011-11-24 02:13 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
I'm thinking characters like Anya Corazon, Amadeus Cho, X-23 (though you're dismissed her as a derivation of previous characters)...

Date: 2011-11-25 09:56 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Not really, I was talking about original characters like Ambush Bug or Booster Gold were originally.

For all the good those brought (and I'm a huuuge fan of Ryan Choi and Jaime) those were actually revamps of previous characters, like Ted Kord was to Dan Garret (and Dan Garret at Charlton Comics was to Dan Garrett at Fox Comics).
I was spekaing of Marvel and DC risking putting out all-new brand new original ideas/characters in the market, not rebranded previous characters/new team book members (new X-men/Teen Titans..)

Date: 2011-11-25 01:15 pm (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Come on! You know what I meant :P
Plus Jaime (modern age) was to alien-tech what Dan (golden age) was to magic and mysterymen and Ted (Silver Age) to gadget-crime fighting heroes... Another take, different sure. But still another incarnation of Blue Beetle.

I meant like Booster Gold was an all-new IP/character/creation.
Or 'Mazing Man!
You know :P

(and the original Blue Beetle did follow in the footsteps of both Ted and Dan, using their resources/revamping old villains and all)

Date: 2011-11-24 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
Arana-Spider-girl for Marvel.

DC had a guy named Wild Dog in the late 80s.

Triumph was in the 90's. He mostly appeared in team books but he had a mini or a short-lived regular series.

Aztek. But Morrison apparently created him with his death planned and after he killed him in JLA he's never become a legacy.

Magog. DC blew it with that one. Sure I know the original was a parody of grim & gritty but I liked his previous identity as Lance in Justice Society. Then he becomes Magog and is clearly influenced by Gog. So they kill Gog but then leave him eactly as he was while influenced by Gog instead of reverting him or splitting the difference.

Date: 2011-11-25 09:52 am (UTC)
eyz: (Speedy)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Araña! Yes! I miss her...the actual original Araña, not the Spider-man spinoff they turned her into...

Date: 2011-11-24 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
so there were people with superpowers when this guy was a kid?

DC's doing GREAT job with the whole "there have only been superheroes for five years" thing aren't they?

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