Ever since it was announced that Jeff Parker would be scribing the Dark Reign: The Hood mini I've been wondering -- wondering with a sense of terrorized fascination, I should add -- what it was going to be like. Would Parker be able to make the Dormammu!Hood actually seem like a worthy and viable contender to be the Sorcerer Supreme?
CBR has an eight-page preview up.
I now have my answer, and it's a resounding silence fraught with puzzlement and horror.
Because you know what I didn't expect from Jeff Parker's work on this mini?
Straight up racial stereotyping that slides down the slippery slope straight into the ditch of racist tropes.
Set up: we're in New York City. The Wrecker and Thunderball have been hired to take down a truck carrying a ton of cash belonging to a wealthy Arab from Brunei, that specifically being the nephew of the Sultan himself (it's like Parker wants us to count the stereotyping!). Meanwhile, the Sultan's nephew is preparing to go home, and his staff have thoughtfully stocked his limo with what appears to be a nubile young woman.
Four pages from Dark Reign: The Hood #1. Now with 75% more racefail!

No, your eyes do not deceive you. We actually get a heavyset, hairy, hook-nosed AND lecherous Arab with bad teeth.

Artfail on this page, because what is up with Thunderball's legs? It takes away from the good visual of T-Ball annihilating the truck.

...And apparently we're back to Thunderball, who has a goddamn Ph.D. in physics, talking like what Parker obviously thinks is a low-level street thug.

...Wow. You know what? Kyle Hotz's art only makes this worse.
I can't even believe that Parker wrote this. I love Parker's choice of characters for this; the liberal use of cracky B- and C-listers is very much appreciated. But I really do think that he's made some poor choices as a writer in this particular sequence.
CBR has an eight-page preview up.
I now have my answer, and it's a resounding silence fraught with puzzlement and horror.
Because you know what I didn't expect from Jeff Parker's work on this mini?
Straight up racial stereotyping that slides down the slippery slope straight into the ditch of racist tropes.
Set up: we're in New York City. The Wrecker and Thunderball have been hired to take down a truck carrying a ton of cash belonging to a wealthy Arab from Brunei, that specifically being the nephew of the Sultan himself (it's like Parker wants us to count the stereotyping!). Meanwhile, the Sultan's nephew is preparing to go home, and his staff have thoughtfully stocked his limo with what appears to be a nubile young woman.
Four pages from Dark Reign: The Hood #1. Now with 75% more racefail!

No, your eyes do not deceive you. We actually get a heavyset, hairy, hook-nosed AND lecherous Arab with bad teeth.

Artfail on this page, because what is up with Thunderball's legs? It takes away from the good visual of T-Ball annihilating the truck.

...And apparently we're back to Thunderball, who has a goddamn Ph.D. in physics, talking like what Parker obviously thinks is a low-level street thug.

...Wow. You know what? Kyle Hotz's art only makes this worse.
I can't even believe that Parker wrote this. I love Parker's choice of characters for this; the liberal use of cracky B- and C-listers is very much appreciated. But I really do think that he's made some poor choices as a writer in this particular sequence.
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:32 pm (UTC)I was looking for a caricature to illustrate this, but couldn't find one. I hate to quote Wikipedia at you, but have a look at the anti-Arbism article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Arabism).
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:18 pm (UTC)yeah i can definitely see how this can be called racism
but still, we can't really call it racism unless we know exactly what Parker was thinking when he wrote this - it seems obvious that there is some prejudice here, but you never know what goes on in another person's head
if every Arabic character he draws starts looking like those guys, and if he uses a pretty obvious stereotype in his comics, then you can safely call this racist
until then, we can only really speculate
afterall, I'm pretty sure that there are indeed fat, lustful, and rich Arabian men in this world with buck-toothed bodyguards
there are also black, white, and asian guys like that too
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:19 pm (UTC)We have learned the Western kinky.
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:27 pm (UTC)There's also this... Thing when dealing with Dark Reign characters, that you somehow need to ahve villians more villainous than the normally villainous people, right?
This kind of reads "The only thing worse than psycho mass-murderers who barters with demons is arabs." And that's not okay. Not okay at all.
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:48 pm (UTC)Wow
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Date: 2009-05-21 05:47 pm (UTC)On the other hand, all of the other characters have highly exaggerated features as well, so I can't really decide whether it's intentional or a style thing.
I am, however, annoyed by Thunderball's speech patterns. I always liked that he was a smart guy who somehow got stuck hanging out with common thugs.
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Date: 2009-05-21 06:02 pm (UTC)In order for it to be actively racist, Parker would have to be espousing the idea that everyone from Brunei is a lecherous, hedonistic sot with a hooked nose and bad skin, and that ain't what's here. This looks more like he tried to come up with a generically unlikable rich douchebag and did it poorly.
Calling something racist when it's just stupid does no one any favors.
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Date: 2009-05-21 06:12 pm (UTC)I would only disagree about the teeth, since teeth all look bad when you draw them, and every person in this comic has weird evil teeth.
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Date: 2009-05-21 06:44 pm (UTC)[1] It's not actually racism unless we have bigotry against Lebanese Christians too.
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Date: 2009-05-21 07:30 pm (UTC)They kinda look like Mexicans to me
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Date: 2009-05-21 09:34 pm (UTC)Then, just last night I was catching up on the new ongoing version of the series and noticed that Luke Cage has a similar problem as Thunderball, though not as extreme, thank god.
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Date: 2009-05-21 09:56 pm (UTC)Hey, I like the art. Actually, I like it a lot. It's not firing on all cylinders and it's absolutely unsuited for superhero work, but Hotz throws down some dark areas and some pleasing compositions. It reminds me of Kelly Jones, but with stronger storytelling.
Awkward: hand placement in page one panel three
awesome: last panel. with a better background it could be iconic. (note to colorist: gradient plus smear is no better than gradient. just draw a fucking background. Use a big wide blurry brush. I know you're busy, but sixty seconds drawing makes a huge difference over twenty seconds gradient-and-smudge.
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Date: 2009-05-21 10:06 pm (UTC)It might be unconscious stereotyping, since Parker wrote the security guys as being smart enough to come armed with weaponry capable of taking down supervillains, but it's still stereotyping, and completely Parker's fault.
As for the stereotyping in the art...
I'd really like to see how Parker describes this guy and the truck security team in the original script. That would let us know how much of the artistic stereotyping is Hotz's own doing.
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Date: 2009-05-22 05:20 pm (UTC)I would too. Because the ratio of writerfail to artistfail isn't at all clear. Together they've produced something that I find skeevy. But it would be helpful to be able to tease out the artistic synergy, so to speak, and figure out how much Parker did or did not specify and how much Hotz ran with it with artistic mad libs.
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Date: 2009-05-22 02:05 am (UTC)But, IMHO, that's ContinuityFail rather than RaceFail -- and most likely b/c the last time the W-Crew were considered A or B-list baddies was...hmmm...the Roger Stern-era Avengers?
As for the Arab, well the 'hook nosed' bit is probably Hotz's call/mistake rather than Parker's...I can't really imagine the script specifying that level of facial detail in an ancillary character like one way or the other. I suppose the editor could/should have caught it as well, and asked Hotz to tone it down a bit.
That said, I'm inclined to cut Parker and Hotz both a certain amount of slack regarding the rest of the portrayal due to the fact that the Sultan of Brunei (and certain of his male relatives) have been guilty of some pretty skeevy stuff when it comes to the many women they've 'invited' to their abodes over the years. Google Shannon Marketic and/or Paula Bradbury for more details.
So, if dude was simply some Arab slave trafficker of unspecified origin, I think one could argue that he was standing in for all Arabs, and that could be seen as prmblematic. But since he is explicitly labeled as a nephew of the Sultan of Brunei, that seems less like stereotyping and more like...reasonable dramatic license a la a the Law & Order 'ripped from the headlines' approach.
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Date: 2009-05-22 09:34 am (UTC)Except for the fact that they apparently got the racial stereotyping of the royal family of Brunei wrong? Even if this is commentary on how exploitative the Brunei royal family can be, the fact that Parker seems to be treating this is a joke almost makes it worse for me. No one is denying that this kind of behavior exists, but for Parker to make light of it as a plot point almost skeeves me out a bit more, if that makes sense.
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Date: 2009-05-23 03:25 am (UTC)But the behavior? I have read some freaky shit about Sultans and royal types from SA and Brunei. Unlimited money and personal power do weird things to people. I read about some internet zillionare in California who got busted because he built an underground sex club beneath his mansion.
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Date: 2009-05-23 05:33 pm (UTC)This. Seriously, what has the Left evolved into if artists get raked over the coals for using ugly caricatures of the rich unless the target is of European Christian descent?