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I didn't think it was possible for this book to get anymore problematic, but I stand corrected.

WARNING: for graphic eroticised violence.

4 pages speak for themselves

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And then the inevitable confrontation with the Dark Knight himself.

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..............

Dear Winick,

Helena Wayne called. And right now she's feeling like unleashing her own personal brand of justice after the way you've shat on both her mum and dad by writing rubbish such as this. And "rubbish" is being *very* polite. This. THIS is just not "sexy" at all.

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Date: 2012-02-18 06:43 pm (UTC)
salinea: (raised eyebrow)
From: [personal profile] salinea
much as I loved Brubaker's Catwoman, I don't think his run was entirely free of cheese cake art (in the latter part of it) or of brutal torture of women. Although I don't remember if they were used in conjunction.

Date: 2012-02-18 06:55 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
The torture sequence with Black Mask did actually involve both genders, which doesn't make it better or excuse it, but at the same time, it was still an established character systematically attempting to destroy Selina's life; This, on the other hand, has had no such build up and isn't part of a story that's nearly as compelling. That DC later went on to have Selina's sister go completely nuts and turn supervillain isn't down to Brubaker, either; I guess what they did is more comic-booky (and fucking stupid) than portray a woman struggling back from something like that happening to her.

As for the art, I don't recall the art ever being like this, nor was the tone of his book like Winnick's, which is setting out to be deliberately cheesecakey, it would seem. Brubaker did, however, have artists like Cameron Stewart and Darwyn Cooke on board.

Date: 2012-02-18 07:13 pm (UTC)
salinea: (kinky)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Nonetheless, I think the torture porn in that run, while having a better build up and storytelling around it, still went too far for no real reason that gratuitousness. Which makes me do a double take when Brubaker's taken as a counterpoint for how not to do Catwoman in an excessively violent way.

1-25 of Catwoman had brilliant, classy, heavily stylised art. 26-37(I think) however, had a much more classic comic book style of art, which sometimes was quite cheesecakey. Couple of random examples:



Date: 2012-02-18 08:36 pm (UTC)
omnipotent: (Default)
From: [personal profile] omnipotent
I have to say that at least Catwoman's breasts fall somewhat like natural breasts do. Can't say the same for Ms. Pink Dress, though.

Date: 2012-02-18 08:47 pm (UTC)
salinea: (Default)
From: [personal profile] salinea
While looking up those two pics, I passed one where her breast were perking in a way that was distinctly not natural.

Date: 2012-02-18 08:52 pm (UTC)
omnipotent: (Default)
From: [personal profile] omnipotent
I stand corrected, then! x_x

Date: 2012-02-18 09:46 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Well, at least the torture sequence and this art didn't overlap.

Is this Gulacy? It looks really quite similar to his stuff in Prey, almost.

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