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I've posted from Saint Seiya before, and not coincidentally about my favourite character from the series, the reluctant warrior Andromeda Shun, and I'll explain why I'm posting more later on...
This is from the Poseidon Chapter of the manga, and I apologise for the fact that a soft covered 169 page manga isn't really suited for a flatbed scanner. (I'm posting 43 pages from volume 15 here.)
The Greek god Poseidon has been reincarnated (as all Greek gods are in Saint Seiya), taking control of the most recent member of a particular family bloodline he has always favoured. He has summoned his herald, the Mermaid, and his Seven Generals (one for each of the Oceans of the World, and the Mermaid Saint, his herald) whose Marinas Scale armours each match a legendary creature from marine legend. He's also planning on flooding the world, as is his wont, and the only way that he can be stopped is if the Seven Pillars which support the roof of his undersea realm, each of which is guarded by one of the Generals. Being a more peace loving sort of deity, Athena takes issue with this plan, and the principle five Bronze Saints split up and set out to destroy the pillars.
Shun is en route to the South Pacific pillar (And then he's going to wash that god right out of his hair... sorry, I am gay so sort of had to make that reference or risk losing my membership)
Remember, read right to left, in both page and panel order.
The Rolling Defense is one of Shuns standard moves, along with the Nebula Chain as an attack (He has two primary chains, one with a circle at the end, for defence, and one with a triangle arrowhead like tip, which is used for attack... though they can multiply and extend to near infinite lengths and he maintains a sort of tactile telekinetic control over them... as someone is about to find out)
Scylla is of course one of the legendary pair or monsters, Scylla and Charybdis.
And it's at this point that Io should have realised the mistake he'd made.... you DON'T toy with your enemy, and you certainly don't repeat yourself, because that can only end badly for you.
Well THAT sounds painful....
Of course, this being Saint Seiya it doesn't end quite THAT happily (The sequence is fairly long so I'd rather not start on it and half to end it half way through)
And for those curious about Scylla's Scale, here is what it looks like when in representational form.
And why did I post this today? Well yesterday in Japan, in episode 12 of Saint Seiya Omega, sort of "Saint Seiya the Next Generation" Shun returned!
He's the first of the original five Bronze Saints to appear properly (Seiya made a cameo in flashback, Shiryu was mentioned and his rather adorable son, Ryuho, is the new Draco Saint and as yet no word of Cygnus Hyoga or Phoenix Ikki)
Oh, and this is Ryuho....
As you can see from that clip, Saint Seiya Omega has broken with the old style of Saint Seiya (though it's done a nice job on the opening) by removing the transforming armour, and making it, admittedly fairly stylish, armour that is simply summoned, and tends to look more like a variation on the Sailor Moon "Make up!" henshin, which is a bit of a shame. See also Kouga for another exampled
Also, all Saints, even former ones, have had their powers altered so they are now basically elementals; All Saints fall into one of seven categories; Wind, Water, Fire, Earth, Thunder and the rarest categories of all, Darkness and Light.
It's all a bit Avatar the Last Airbender meets Sailor Moon, and has met with a decidely mixed reaction from old school fans.
However, as I said, last night we met Shun again. Now, about 15 to 20 years after the original series he's living as a hermit in the desert, but is much revered by the locals. When an enemy Saint (Canis Minor) tracks Kouga and Leo Minor Saint Soma and realises that Shun is with them, he basically runs like hell on general principle because the Andromeda Saint has THAT sort of a rep, even after all this time.
Later, when Canis Minor discovers that Shun suffered an injury years ago which has greatly limited his capacity to channel cosmo, and he never uses the Andromeda Cloth now, he feels he can attack the younger Saints with impunity. At which point, of course, Shun shows how they did things in HIS day.
I'm relieved at some level that they didn't redesign his Cloth in any way, and that he just, temporarily, makes his old Cloth out of pure Cosmo energy, which is pretty impressive in its own way.
Just thought I'd share! :)
I've posted from Saint Seiya before, and not coincidentally about my favourite character from the series, the reluctant warrior Andromeda Shun, and I'll explain why I'm posting more later on...
This is from the Poseidon Chapter of the manga, and I apologise for the fact that a soft covered 169 page manga isn't really suited for a flatbed scanner. (I'm posting 43 pages from volume 15 here.)
The Greek god Poseidon has been reincarnated (as all Greek gods are in Saint Seiya), taking control of the most recent member of a particular family bloodline he has always favoured. He has summoned his herald, the Mermaid, and his Seven Generals (one for each of the Oceans of the World, and the Mermaid Saint, his herald) whose Marinas Scale armours each match a legendary creature from marine legend. He's also planning on flooding the world, as is his wont, and the only way that he can be stopped is if the Seven Pillars which support the roof of his undersea realm, each of which is guarded by one of the Generals. Being a more peace loving sort of deity, Athena takes issue with this plan, and the principle five Bronze Saints split up and set out to destroy the pillars.
Shun is en route to the South Pacific pillar (And then he's going to wash that god right out of his hair... sorry, I am gay so sort of had to make that reference or risk losing my membership)
Remember, read right to left, in both page and panel order.
The Rolling Defense is one of Shuns standard moves, along with the Nebula Chain as an attack (He has two primary chains, one with a circle at the end, for defence, and one with a triangle arrowhead like tip, which is used for attack... though they can multiply and extend to near infinite lengths and he maintains a sort of tactile telekinetic control over them... as someone is about to find out)
Scylla is of course one of the legendary pair or monsters, Scylla and Charybdis.
And it's at this point that Io should have realised the mistake he'd made.... you DON'T toy with your enemy, and you certainly don't repeat yourself, because that can only end badly for you.
Well THAT sounds painful....
Of course, this being Saint Seiya it doesn't end quite THAT happily (The sequence is fairly long so I'd rather not start on it and half to end it half way through)
And for those curious about Scylla's Scale, here is what it looks like when in representational form.
And why did I post this today? Well yesterday in Japan, in episode 12 of Saint Seiya Omega, sort of "Saint Seiya the Next Generation" Shun returned!
He's the first of the original five Bronze Saints to appear properly (Seiya made a cameo in flashback, Shiryu was mentioned and his rather adorable son, Ryuho, is the new Draco Saint and as yet no word of Cygnus Hyoga or Phoenix Ikki)
Oh, and this is Ryuho....
As you can see from that clip, Saint Seiya Omega has broken with the old style of Saint Seiya (though it's done a nice job on the opening) by removing the transforming armour, and making it, admittedly fairly stylish, armour that is simply summoned, and tends to look more like a variation on the Sailor Moon "Make up!" henshin, which is a bit of a shame. See also Kouga for another exampled
Also, all Saints, even former ones, have had their powers altered so they are now basically elementals; All Saints fall into one of seven categories; Wind, Water, Fire, Earth, Thunder and the rarest categories of all, Darkness and Light.
It's all a bit Avatar the Last Airbender meets Sailor Moon, and has met with a decidely mixed reaction from old school fans.
However, as I said, last night we met Shun again. Now, about 15 to 20 years after the original series he's living as a hermit in the desert, but is much revered by the locals. When an enemy Saint (Canis Minor) tracks Kouga and Leo Minor Saint Soma and realises that Shun is with them, he basically runs like hell on general principle because the Andromeda Saint has THAT sort of a rep, even after all this time.
Later, when Canis Minor discovers that Shun suffered an injury years ago which has greatly limited his capacity to channel cosmo, and he never uses the Andromeda Cloth now, he feels he can attack the younger Saints with impunity. At which point, of course, Shun shows how they did things in HIS day.
I'm relieved at some level that they didn't redesign his Cloth in any way, and that he just, temporarily, makes his old Cloth out of pure Cosmo energy, which is pretty impressive in its own way.
Just thought I'd share! :)
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Date: 2012-06-17 09:54 pm (UTC)about 15 to 20 years after the original series he's living as a hermit in the desert, and he's still wearing silly-looking suspenders. Adorkable.So. Shun's still here, and still badass-adorable? Yay!! That could tip the "mixed reactions" balance. I might end up giving Omega a try some day.
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Date: 2012-06-18 02:42 pm (UTC)For every idea that seems poor (The Clothstones just don't have the same pizzazz as the full transforming armour and the elemental basis isn't nearly as much fun as the random magi-babble explanations we used to get) there's another idea I like (The Palaestra is a MUCH more apporpriate notion for the Saints of Athena than the "Send 100 innocent kids out across the world and accept a fatality rate of 90%" (What kind of sick bastard was Mitsumasa Kido?) and Youna basically saying that the "Females HAVE to wear a mask" notion is stupid, is loooooong overdue)
And whilst I love the original, it is easy to look at it through nostalgia tinted glasses. They changed so many elements as they went along (The Sagittarius Cloth even redesigned itself for no apparent reason, and was a prize for a Bronze Saint competition, which makes no sense) that SSO being it's own beast I have no problem with.
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Date: 2012-06-18 02:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-17 09:59 pm (UTC)Shun is interesting to me because he's kind of "the girl" but written in an almost perfect "not 'the girl'" way, if you see what I mean? He has a sort of legit badass-femme thing going.
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Date: 2012-06-17 10:08 pm (UTC)yesssssssssssssssssssssss :)
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Date: 2012-06-17 10:17 pm (UTC)It seems that Shiryu, though still alive, has now lost all of his normal physical senses. He spends his time in deep meditation. Ryuho, who is extraordinarily powerful in terms of cosmo, but who is physically frail, wants to master the cosmo so he can possibly come up with a cure. He's perhaps the one who comes closest to Shun in terms of personality.
Looking up Shun on wiki I found the following rather odd section.
Regarded as a "true walking caricature, this character was the most fragile and sensible, with fine traits, long hair, doe eyes and the most feminine armor of the group (with a nice 95B in the guise of a breastplate in the anime version)".
I have no idea what a 95B means.
His chains are regarded as highly symbolic, viewed as a jewel (a feminine symbol) and a weapon of changing length that can become supple or rigid at will (a phallic symbol), which can be used for defensive or offensive purposes (the sexual ambiguity and seme-uke dichotomy), and represents the original myth of Andromeda, who was tied on a rock and offered as a sacrifice to calm a marine monster's wrath, which is regarded as sexual.
Well that's... a deep interpretation of the concepts! O_o
In the section "Right Turn Only!" from Anime News Network, writer Liann Cooper described Shun's character as "prissy" and his fight against his older brother, Phoenix Ikki, as a plot twist "skirmish".
And I really don't know what the hell series she was watching, but I can't ever see Shun as "prissy". Gentle? Hell yes. Pacifistic? Absolutely? but prissy? Not that I can recall.
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Date: 2012-06-17 10:29 pm (UTC)Haha, yeah that is a pretty deep-cover look at things! I wouldn't go quite so literally metaphorical myself, but at least the genderplay clear and interesting to the general audience. Prissy's a daft & suspect choice of words though, IMO, yeah..
I didn't ask who the mother was incase it WASN'T Shunrei.. Phew. But a MASSIVE bummer that they've lost access to each other again! Those kids can't catch a break!
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Date: 2012-06-18 09:13 am (UTC)It's a fun scene! if you like to see a bully brought down a peg or two.
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Date: 2012-06-18 01:14 pm (UTC)to warm up boys with your bodyetc. That you could wear pink clothes and still have friends. Seriously, his very existence was incredibly therapeutic.no subject
Date: 2012-06-18 01:25 pm (UTC)I believe at the end of the fight against the Intense Heat Saint (Always felt that should just have been the Fornax Saint?), it ends with ALL the Bronze boys having a good weep, including Ikki!
Ah, here we go (The English dub is... not good... like REALLY not good, but as crying scenes go, it's a good one!)
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Date: 2012-06-18 05:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-17 11:07 pm (UTC)I never followed the story too closely, only watched the anime when I was a child, and I can't remember ever watching the ending. Out of curiosity, I wondered whatever happened to my childhood heroes, and asked around about it.
I got some rather conflicting reports. Some say Seiya died at the end of the manga, others that Seiya got very seriously injured and permanently lost the use of his legs, others that Phoenix Ikki died at the end of the manga in an exploding island... Really, what the heck happened? Did the five guys make it out alive or not? Did any of them get permanently disabled or not?
And what was the deal with Seiya's sister, anyway? It was always very heavily implied that it was Marin, but I heard from a friend that in the end there was an asspull and the author was basically "LOL no Seiya's sister is this other random girl you've never seen before!"
Speaking of Marin, what happened to her? She was cool. So was Shaina, what happened to her?
I kind of shipped her with Seiya.no subject
Date: 2012-06-17 11:34 pm (UTC)It's pretty confusing actually.
If the manga had continued I believe the plan was for the Hades chapter to finish and be followed by the Zeus Chapter and have Seiya and the others deal with the afterlife and then the Chronos Chapter. Perhaps they would return to Earth after that, but plans came and went and changed and I don't know if that was the original plan or something they adapted.
Certain the Tenkai Hen Overture movie in 2004 had a wheelchair bound and apparently comatose Seiya being back on Earth after unexplained events in the world beyond, and the other Saints being more or less fine.
To complete the confusion, or at least add to it, Kurumada's decision to go ahead with spin off manga "Saint Seiya Next Dimension" basically wiped out the Tenkai hen movie events for the most part.
Marin was not Seiya's sister (though they looked uncannily alike, to the extent of some confusion as to whether they were twins or not), as we found out when Seika returned after suffering amnesia for several years whilst trying to find Seiya.
Shaina appears in Saint Seiya Omega, and is still badass as they come, serving as Saori's primary defender and Kouga's teacher. Marin's fate is unknown, but there is a new Eagle Saint, Yuna, who is one of the main characters in the series and the first female Saint to actively reject the "law of masks" which she sees as absurd.
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Date: 2012-06-20 09:23 am (UTC)Good to hear Shaina is atill badass, too, she was one of my favourite characters :). I hope Marin is ok, though...
there is a new Eagle Saint, Yuna, who is one of the main characters in the series and the first female Saint to actively reject the "law of masks" which she sees as absurd.
FINALLY! Even as a small child the law of the masks sounded like total bullshit to me. About time somebody went all "wait, so I have to work just as hard as any male Saint, but I must do so as a faceless entity that gets no recognition let alone any glory whatsoever? HELL NO!"
Thank you very much for the info :)
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Date: 2012-06-20 10:10 am (UTC)Not sure about them being "fine". Seiya is missing (though is believed to be out there somewhere), Shiryu is locked inside his own mind with all his senses being out of action, Shun was injured by a Darkness cosmo attack during the first attack of Mars 15/20 years ago, and hasn't been able to use his Cloth since then (He can use his cosmo but it's very, very dangerous to him to do so), and the fates of Hyoga and Ikki are completely unknown at the moment (Shun didn't mention Ikki in his appearance)
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