Bye , bye Earth 3...

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

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[sailorlibra.insanejournal.com]

Definitely the best world evah,

I was under the impression that they hadn't be destroyed, however. Since this world appeared in JLA before IC happened. Was that just a fluke or did Earth-3 secretly survive?

[(Anonymous)]

Mark Waid brought back the multiverse with The Kingdom in the late-ish 90s. Since the multiverse was back Grant Morrison wrote JLA: Earth 2 (Since Earth 2 didn't exist, Earth 3 moved up one space, but it recently had to move back, alas what a short lived promotion.)

Then I don't know what happened because the multiverse appeared as late as Kurt Busiek's JLA run, but still DC announced Infinite Crisis and everybody went nuts because it was going to bring the multiverse back... and the whole thing is all kinds of retarded, but that's how DC works. DC is like God, but instead of mysterious, it's retarded.

But in short, that's why Earth 3 appeared before IC.

I used to post as Cissie King in the old SD, but I haven't created an account here yet.

[cmdr_zoom.insanejournal.com]

Fans of the Silver Age waited and wanted and hoped for the multiverse to come back, even though the whole point of the original Crisis was to get rid of it (and all that confusing history). Instead, all that DC managed to accomplish was making its single new continuity even MORE confusing, in part because no one seemed to be able to agree what the new story was going to be. (Part of the old multiverse's job was to allow for such variance between artistic vision.)

There were a number of attempts to bring it back, partly inspired by rosy nostalgia but also by the awareness that as a matter of practicality, you can't have "all stories are true" in a setting with so many creators and so much scope... but like the various incarnations of Supergirl, people kept tripping over each other trying to do it "right" according to their ideas. Thus you got stuff like Hypertime, 52, etc. By now it's gone through so many reinterpretations that it's hard to say just what the structure of the DCU cosmos is supposed to be. It's the same problem bumped up to the next level of meta - everyone wants to tell THE DEFINITIVE STORY of how all stories are possible.

Moral of the story? "Too many cooks spoil the broth" and/or "be careful what you wish for," I'd say.

[kentsplace.insanejournal.com]

for me this made Ultraman cool. The whole fight until the end thing still works for me.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Thing that DC found is that the (mainstream) comics they put out afterward alienated everyone but their oldest fans, who LIKED all that confusing history.

Mainstream fans like that stuff. Otherwise Marvel would no longer exist, as if you recall they've never thrown out said history, and theirs is a lot more twisty and vast, whereas what was confusing about DC is that often they ignored it. They were trying to be more like Marvel in adhering to only one.

[jlroberson.insanejournal.com]

Is it just me that noticed Earth-3 heroes have no taste in costumes? Between Alex Luthor's gold leotard and his dad's...I don't know, especially-retarded-Rams-fan get-up, I mean...

You can always tell it's 80s Wolfman by the amount of times people say "Lord."

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Yeah "earth 2" was an awfull title for that GM Book. The KB brought them back as the crime synducate from Qwad,they now were changed by what happened in JLA/ Avengers so now they could move between worlds ect. As for post Final Crisis , who the hell knws anymore. Insane journal isn't bad I did a little exploring earlier today,so I may use this for other things as well.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Also I thought what Waid brought back was "hypertime" not the Multiverse. (?)

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Yeah you get the idea that somewhere in the final moments ,Ultraman realize he should have been a hero.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

SO true...

[liliaeth.insanejournal.com]

The silly part is that now, Marvel is trying to be like DC, by ignoring vast bits of its continuity while pretending it all makes sense.

[foxhack.insanejournal.com]

"Otherwise Marvel would no longer exist, as if you recall they've never thrown out said history, and theirs is a lot more twisty and vast, whereas what was confusing about DC is that often they ignored it."

... Did you ever look at Brand New Day? :\

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

One more day...

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

Same thing in practice.

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

> As for post Final Crisis , who the hell knws anymore.

People capable of reading.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

That makes my brain all hurty...

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

Well, before Hypertime writers couldn't use parallel universes in DC stories. A universe where everybody is evil, a zombie, has a beard was almost impossible.

Some writers managed to pull it off from DCU Vertigo books where they didn't care about stupid limiting rules like that, or they showed a parallel universe but called it a "pocket universe" just so everyone could pretend it was something else; because for some reason a certain number of dumb fans had convinced themselves that the multiverse was a bad thing and that it was too complicated for their feeble minds and that's why it had to go away. Never mind that Marvel had a multiverse and nobody complained; probably not even the same fans who complained about DC but also read Marvel.

So, Mark Waid presented the concept of Hypertime to bring back the concept of multiverse without undoing Crisis on Infinite Earths. And that's how we got Grant Morrison's Earth 2 book and other things like the Superboy: Hypertension storyline. And then DC published Infinite Crisis and we all have to pretend that never happened and that the multiverse was back at last.

And that's the short version of why I should rule the universe and my death squads should ride across the land thinning the herd.

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

Okay, that was too bitchy, but THAT part of FC is the less complicated of them all.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Superboy: Hypertension ?

More info please :)

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Ok , I'm all ears let me have it.

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

I don't remember much about it, but i remember liking it. It was about Superboy traveling through the multiverse to save... something.

This page explains it better: http://www.geocities.com/hypertime2000/features/hypertension/index.html

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

The multiverse is just like it was before Final Crisis started, but now without monitors. Nothing happened to it. TA-DA!!!!

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

Ah, where did the monitors go ?

and what about that scheme of Monarch's ?

[cissie_king.insanejournal.com]

> Ah, where did the monitors go ?

Nowhere I guess. They just don't monitor anymore, or at least they no longer go around hunting people for leaving their universes.

> and what about that scheme of Monarch's ?

That was Countdown, and I don't think even DC knows what that was all about.

[volksjager.insanejournal.com]

So, batman and the rocket are back in the past ? Batman has taken up cave painting as Gotham decends into chaos ?