Wolverine and the X-men #19 preview

[sherkahn]

ComicBookResources has the of #19. I guess we are focusing on more of the youths now, in this title. But I posted that cover image for a reason (below the cut).





Something about that image of Storm like this.. I have to admit, turns me on. After last issues turn, I see the title returning to form.

Comments

[salinea]

well that's not creepy at all.

[shadowpsykie]

EEEEEEEEK! Clown WOLVERINE! CLOWN WOLVERINE *hides*

Oh yes, bub... they float... we ALL FLOAT down here...

EEEEEEEEEEEE

[salinea]

Actually I meant shackled Storm...

[shadowpsykie]

i find this art in general creepy. as others have said, storm being a thief and escape artist, this did not really bother me... but there is something about the way she is drawn that looks creepy....

i just have a general fear clowns... i personally think they are evil and want to eat me.... wolverine as a clown does not help...

and again, i think this art is too... cartoony....

[salinea]

It probably wouldn't disturb me so much if that title didn't have, at this point, a horrid track record in the way it treats its female characters.

[shadowpsykie]

i see what you mean... but i seriously have a major fear of clowns... so that is the first and really the only thing i see at this point....

[salinea]

ok.

[shadowpsykie]

also truth be told i wrote off the x-men books a long time ago. the only one i read is Astonishing, cuz it has so many of my favorite characters and has been relatively untouched by the AvX fiasco.

i wanted to like this book... but logan as a headmaster, Kitty Pregnant by Brood... again... and i was like... no.... sorry... no...

[nefrekeptah]

What are you talking about? What horrid track record?

[long_silence]

Kitty's false pregnancy. Warbird only being used to sexually assault other characters. Husk who's story is treated as an after thought and in response to her mental condition Kitty just says "This is what I get for hiring a former student of Emma Frost's", not to mention her really fucked up relationship with her stalker Toad.

The women in this title are mostly only used to prop up the men.

[nefrekeptah]

Kitty has been a major character who keeps the school running more then anyone else, and fought a Phoenix empowered Peter Rasputin for the sake of the school. Warbird had a whole issue dedicated to her backstory and personal hangups. Kitty tried to help Husk, who responded by angrily rejecting her and quitting. Her relationship with Toad was only part of her subplot.

The women in this title are some of the most interesting characters, and do anything but "prop up the men."

[salinea]

Major character? Kitty has barely done anything asides from being a love interest or being shown as a very inefficient headmistress. The issue with Peter was still all about her as love interest (and pushing the Bobby/Kitty ship once more). Warbird's issue was decent enough, I'll grant you that, though that doesn't excuse all the "lol women with one sided crush who are sexual harasser are funny" thing. Husk's story has all been about making comedy of Toad as a stalker; while still trying to portray him as sweet.

Then there's Idie's treatment, of the kids the least well developed as well as the only female student (until recently) and, again, used in her role as love interest to fodder Broo's development (ooooh pooor Broo she doesn't want him and now he's been shot in the face).

Rachel is the only female character in this series that has escaped unscathed.

[nefrekeptah]

Yes, major character. She is not been portrayed as "inefficient," any more then the rest of the staff has, and has kicked more then her share of ass. The entire last issue was told entirely from her viewpoint. No, the Colossus as Phoenix story was not about "being a love interest," it was about her as a character and how she has grown and taken new responsibilities. Oh, and the Bobby/ Kitty thing (which, I might add, has so far been entirely on Kitty's part) isn't even brought up except for one line where Kitty mentions to Bobby "if you ever get the nerve to ask me out, don't make it sea food." When exactly has Warbird ever sexually harassed anyone? She makes lots of come-ons, but last I checked, a female being sexually active isn't, by itself, sexist, as long as there is more to her character, and in Warbird's case, there is. Husk's story has been all about how she's clearly been coming apart at the seams and is in total denial about it, and Toad's infatuation has been portrayed as creepy.

If anything, Ide is the most developed of the new students, in that she has an actual personality that's easily identified. And no, her constant struggle with (and recent acceptance of) the damnation she is certain she'll face is not there only to "fodder Broo's development" - it's something we've seen her come to terms with on her own.

You're taking a few small things and blowing them out of proportion. None of the female characters are defined only by their relationships to men, so I don't see where the sexist thing is coming from.

[donnblake]

"Something about that image of Storm like this.. I have to admit, turns me on."

Agreed- it's a nice combination of a pretty lady in bondage, which hits my personal preferences, and the fact that Storm is obviously having a good time with her escape act, given her expression

[icon_uk]

Oh look, a corrupt and evil religious figure....how novel </ sarcasm>

[darkknightjrk]

If it helps, last time we saw this guy, Broo broke into the church to find out what was going on with Idie, only to find out that it's a Hellfire Club front there to specifically target Idie and they silenced Broo by shooting him in the head. Dude there is probably another robot.

[icon_uk]

Thanks, but as it's another cliché "evil religious creepy person" no, that doesn't help.

[drmcninja]

I'm with you on that. And I miss Kurt.

[yvonmukluk]

Did...did he die?

[darkknightjrk]

No, but he's in a coma right now (Idie refers to this in the preview, not wanting to leave Broo's side), and Beast is using everything he knows and contacting the best scientific minds of the 616 (including cameos by Reed, Tony, and Peter) to try to figure out how to heal him--which is difficult since seemingly all the medical texts on Broods involve how to kill them, not how to save them.

[icon_uk]

I believe that Peters suggestion that they marry him off then sell the marriage to Mephisto raised some eyebrows.

[shadowpsykie]

did he REALLY say that... because the way this comic is going i think it might actually be something said...

[sherkahn]

The one true expert on Brood physiology is the extreme zoologist Broo tore through a few issues back. Would be nice of that guy to return.

I liked him as a character.

[darkknightjrk]

I believe Beast mentions that in the issue, and he's not a fan of meeting up with him again...

[auggie18]

Pity they don't know any people who can heal extreme wounds. Any people who have regrown somebody else's heart in the past. People who are omega level healers.


Cough cough.

[batman]

Shh, the NXM kids never existed and we have always been at war with Eurasia.

[long_silence]

Kinda weird that they'd call Peter. I know that he's a scientist, but he's never really been a biologist like Hank McCoy or Hank Pym.

He makes weapons at Horizon Labs

[nefrekeptah]

Not "weapons," per say, but he does invent a lot.

[darkknightjrk]

First, I think you mean a preview for #21. :P

Second, as much as that is a very sexy Storm there (kinda surprised that's going along so well here--I thought the image of an African woman in chains would cause a metric shitstorm around these parts...), Wolverine as a clown is kinda freaking me out. O_O No me gusta, no me gusta at all...

[donnblake]

It's a context thing, I think. Storm's not being chained up by a villain or as part of an attempted subjugation, she's taking part in an exhibition of escapology.

[rainspirit]

I'd take... Lumberjack Clown, or whatever he is, over a variety of other kinds of clowns out there.

Like that Swiss clown hired specifically for the purpose of scaring children...

[sherkahn]

Ororo Munroe, before she was an X-man or African weather goddess, was in her childhood an expert thief par-excellance and escape artist.
This is not a new role for her.

[darkknightjrk]

Oh I knew that--it's why I wasn't too weirded out by it when I first saw the cover. I just didn't think that history would matter--the image itself would cause controversy.

[northstarfan]

Context is not always for the weak.

[pallas_athena]

Yay! Bamf-butt!

(I do sorely miss the one X-Man who was a true circus artist...)

[icon_uk]

As do all right minded individuals....

[endis_ni]

I was going to comment the exact same thing! Now if only bamfs were bigger, and more sentient, and more charming in a swashbuckling sort of way...

[nightauditguy]

Wouldn't Gambit be better suited to do the card tricks?

[sherkahn]

Rachel is doing the role of "fortune teller", since she's from the future.

[long_silence]

I could almost swear I remember an earlier version of this cover where Rachel was a firebreather

[espanolbot]

Nac Mac Feegle, wayhey!

[dorksidefiker]

It is now my deepest wish that the lil blue dudes will start shouting things like "Nae king, nae queen, nae lord, nae master! We'll nae be fooled again!" and "Waily!"

[icon_uk]

Motto!

[endis_ni]

The one at the bottom about to get hooked off?

"Ach, crivens!"

[avantre]

I wonder if this cover is supposed to be a homage to x-men 111? Same cover theme of the x-men performing circus roles (in that case, due to Mesmero).

[halloweenjack]

That was my thought, as well.

[selke]

Scary Clown Wolverine vs. Bondage Storm. My libido. She is confused.