Date: 2013-02-06 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beoweasel
Is it just me, or does DC have a thing about characters declaring their love, friendship, or that they don't want to hurt someone, while punching out the person it's directed towards?

Date: 2013-02-06 07:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
It's definitely not just you, that was the first thing that I really stuck out to me about this, it seems like a really noticeable and uncomfortable trend. Plus you've got the two sirens grovelling for Eros' forgiveness and professing their love after he's just shot them, followed by him saying they sicken him, which is.... unfortunate.

Date: 2013-02-06 07:12 pm (UTC)
coldfury: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coldfury
So... how did Superman catch a magic bullet?

Date: 2013-02-06 07:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie

sorry that made giggle... and think of an 80's guitar riff :D

Date: 2013-02-06 08:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisdv
And then Booster Gold turns up in a DeLlorean & tells them they have to come to future with him to deal with their kids? =D
Edited Date: 2013-02-06 08:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-06 07:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie

Date: 2013-02-06 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
How do they describe his powers again? "Faster than a speeding bullet..."

Date: 2013-02-06 10:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
Except that's not a normal bullet Superman was trying to catch. It's literally a magic bullet, and Superman is still depicted as being vulnerable to magic. Yes, he's fast enough to catch it and does get knocked back from the impact of it, but that bullet should have gone through his skin. Remember, these are the same bullets that are capable of penetrating even Wonder Woman's unbreakable wrist bracelets.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Like I mentioned below, I think it's more likely that he picked the bullet out of the air rather than deflected it with his body, which would take away all the momentum the bullet had.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coldfury
Ugh, I hate to explain this away, but I guess we could pawn this off as a superspeed feat. Like, the Flash could probably do the same thing with a regular bullet, why can't Superman do this with a magic bullet?

The art does reinforce this as the bullet isn't dented as it would be with a ricochet.

It's a bit much, but I guess it's feasible.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
Except, when we see the Flash or Superman catch a bullet, they are shown to be still standing, probably because they're moving at a greater velocity than the bullet itself. But as we see in this scene, the velocity of the bullet also knocks Superman backwards and dazes him, showing that, because the bullet is magic, it's effecting him like a regular bullet. And yet, at the same time, it doesn't because the bullet still doesn't pierce his skin even though it should have.

Date: 2013-02-07 07:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
Kryptonian armor?

Date: 2013-02-06 07:18 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (Miguel)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
hmmm not a horrible story,

and i admit i thought "Awe Eros you are sweet, misguided, but sweet"

about not wanting Clark to break Diana's heart....

though him catching the magic bullet.... (both another song riff and useful kitchen product) annoyed me...

Date: 2013-02-06 09:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Good to see something from the Wonder Woman series finally appearing outside of itself.

Date: 2013-02-06 09:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
I'm sorry, but I have to call MAJOR bullshit on that ending.

Yes, I understand what the scene is supposed to signify, that Superman is showing Diana that he's making a decision of his own free will to love her in spite of his fears about hurting her. That's all fine and dandy. However, as this very issue shows, Superman is still vulnerable to the effects of magic. And Eros' bullets are of very powerful magic considering how we've seen they're capable of literally penetrating through Diana's unbreakable bracelets. And yet somehow, Superman is capable of catching a literal magic bullet just like he would an regular one? Sure, he's got enough super speed to be able to catch it, but that bullet should have gone through his hand. Or at the very least pierced his skin and drew blood. And IMO, if a writer has to violate the pre-established rules of a fictional universe that have been set-up well in advance in order to make the story work, then that writer is doing something wrong.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I suppose you could say that Superman really stretched out his super-speed by picking the bullet out of the air instead of just letting it hit his skin. It would explain why the bullet wasn't dented due to impact.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
Sure, but we also see that the bullet's velocity knocks him the ground even upon catching it, which doesn't happen when Superman usually catches bullets. Which again shows that this is indeed a magic bullet. But instead of the bullet should've also been able to pierce his skin even if he did catch it, we don't see so much as a scratch on Superman's hand. Remember in Watchmen when Ozymandius catches the bullet when Laurie tries to shoot him, and he was knocked down from the impact and his hand is bloody since it still was able to pierce his skin. That's what should've happened when Superman tried to catch Eros' bullet.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I agree that he probably should have had a bloody hand after it (one of the things I liked initially about the New 52 Superman was that he could get beaten and bruised under extreme situations), but it wasn't such a huge problem that it took me out of the story, if you get what I mean.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
Magic doesn't negate Superman's powers, he just has no immunity to it. If he just catches the bullet in the air between his fingers , whether or not the bullet would penetrate his skin is irreleveant. Unless the bullets have been shown to have magic that makes them immune to the laws of physics, which they might have for all I know.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Nothing has been said that they can break the laws of physics, but nothing has come up that would make one question it, IMO. When one of Eros' bullet breaks through Diana's bracelets, it was because the metal of the bullet was stronger than her bracelets--like the difference between regular and armor-piercing bullets.

Date: 2013-02-06 10:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stillanerd
As I explained above, even though Superman is fast enough to grab it, we see that he still gets knocked back from the bullet's impact which doesn't happen whenever he catches regular bullets. So it is affecting him like a normal bullet in spite of his powers because it's magic. And yet, because apparently the plot says so, this same magic bullet which is able to knock him backwards and stun him even after he catches it doesn't make so much as a scratch on his hand?

Date: 2013-02-07 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
We don't know that it's effecting him like a regular bullet in spite of his powers. We know that it knocks him backwards. There's a substantial gap between "Can knock Superman about," and "Can break Superman's skin."

Date: 2013-02-06 11:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darth_cloudo
...Diana looks a bit weird here. Especially on the first page, she's leaning and standing in poses I normally wouldn't associate with her. Can't quite put my finger on what's throwing me off, though.

Although I did like when she said, "Let the truth set you free!" It sounds a bit like a slogan. (Red Bull gives you wings!)

Date: 2013-02-07 11:12 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Well, it is a slogan of sorts, about two thousand years old:

John 8:32: (KJV): And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Date: 2013-02-06 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jaybee3
So how does this play into Scott Lobdell (current writer of Superman) and Grant Morrison (exiting writer of Action) both outright stating that reboot Superman is "currently" in love with Lois Lane?

I don't know even with importing characters from Azzarello's WW, I still think this "romance" could have been filled with Generic Female Superheroine X and its all for SUPERMAN'S benefit. What role is WW (the dominant superheroine in all fiction) playing here other than as "Superman's Girlfriend" (to use the title of an old DC book starring Lois)? I still don't see it.

First Page

Date: 2013-02-07 12:42 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
...the fuck is Diana wearing?

Re: First Page

Date: 2013-02-07 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
that is a very strange outfit.

Re: First Page

Date: 2013-02-07 03:41 pm (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
Clearly, she has decided to experiment with fashion.

Date: 2014-10-30 10:49 am (UTC)
lilbird: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilbird
....isn't Diana Eros' aunt though?
I mean, Diana is a child of Zeus now, as is Hepheastus (she even calls him 'brother'), and in one Wonder Woman issue Aphrodite counts herself among Zeus' children too (so they went with that version of the myth instead of the sea foam one).
So they're Diana's (half-) siblings. Eros is their son (he calls Hepheastus 'father' despite usually being Aphrodite's bastard son in the myths).
Ergo Diana is Eros' aunt, not cousin.


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