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And by Huntress, I mean the Huntress identity not the woman behind the mask. We already know the story of the woman behind the mask. Mostly.

We begin with our story four years into the past, where a 17-year-old Helena Wayne goes to pick up her Huntress costume, which she had custom made in Metropolis:





I do wonder where Karen and Helena find people they can easily *trust* with their secret identities, especially since surely Sade here would've recognised the Huntress costume on telly as soon as Helena's exploits got large enough to get noticed by INTERPOL?

Anyway, onto Helena's first official night as the Huntress, which once again starts off with doe-eyed women being rescued from misogynistic men by the Huntress (which has become something of a trope at this point with Helena's narrative):





While I do get that the message here is that misogyny is a serious problem that needs to be combatted (and Huntress does a good job at doing that *literally*), at the same time, however, consistent portrayal of Helena as a woman who has a low opinion of men (and especially one who enjoys hurting men whenever she can) is getting dangerously close to straw feminism, and even moreso since she did later (unnecessarily) stomp that same guy in the nads while he was already down and unconscious.

The fact that she has yet to be seen interacting with a male character (aside from her own father and Damian) in a meaningful way who isn't a gross misogynist that she beats up is especially troubling since it does nothing to counterbalance the fact, nor does it do anything to demonstrate that she does acknowledge that non-misogynistic men who actually do respect women exist as well. There's also the fact that Helena consistently responds to violence towards women with aggressive violence towards men while failing to actually address the problem at hand. I hope Levitz eventually becomes aware of this as he writes.

Date: 2013-02-07 12:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Also? While characters quashing misogyny is better than misogyny just passing, what I'd really like is some comics with no misogyny at all, because I am really tired of misogyny! Even if it's just there to be rightly squashed!

Date: 2013-02-07 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
Well, the Vic Sage Question is (sort of) around again now...maybe Helena can run into him and have some non-violent, meaningful interaction with a Male before long.

Or Dick Grayson/Nightwing. But I don't necessarily mean THAT kind of "meaningful interaction" because seriously, just have Helena and Karen make out and get it out there.

Date: 2013-02-07 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I have not read the issue yet, so please forgive me if I've missed something. But misogyny is an attitude, not an action. Of course it can inspire actions. But so can other attitudes....

basically what I'm saying is love of money and power can just as easily explain these men forcing women into prostitution as hatred of women.

Date: 2013-02-07 02:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] maxisanacorn
So it's been confirmed that Helena B wasn't even Huntress and there hasn't been any Huntress hanging out with any of the Bat-fam until Helena W.... all that has been erased or did this issue imply that some of Helena B adventures with the Bat-fam actually Helena W the whole time?

That's really depressing to just cut out Helena B's entire history - how many important storylines were there that had her in them...it's just...weird.

Date: 2013-02-07 09:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I feel kind of awful for the fact that I laughed at the fact that Helena dignifies the guy with a response; It's like - We KNOW the guy's a piece of shit for wanting to pimp what look like underage girls, we don't need her to actively say 'they're not whores' - kicking the guy's face in is more than enough of a reply. It's like Levitz is actively afraid of letting the art speak for itself in terms of Helena delivering retribution upon the guy for what he's done, which it more than would.

It's either that or why is it even spoken aloud if it has to be said at all? Helena could just have a simple 'No. Not whores. Not now, not ever' narration box or two that would make so much more sense than her almost seeming to banter with the guy.

Date: 2013-02-07 09:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Kind gives the implication that if they were she wouldn't care, which would be terrible.

Date: 2013-02-07 12:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Given she's kicking the crap out of the guy for taking the women in the first place, I disagree. That she's fighting for them is all the indication they need that she does care.

Date: 2013-02-07 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
she's a superhero though. It's sort of her job.

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