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Long story short for those not in the know, Secret Avengers was rebooted, and part of that is reinventing the team for New!SHIELD, where they'll be doing secret Missions, just like before, but this time they'll be mind-wiped after every mission, so they won't tell the other Avengers.

To start with, Clint and Nat are the first recruited for SHIELD's new initiative, and despite the fact neither like the idea of the operation, they agree to sign up for missions they won't remember after they're blackmailed by something unidentified. Then, they go out on their first mission:

I know its standard practice for Nick Fury to be, well, a very bad word, but he always did it in a way that makes you, not want to punch him in the face, but to cry out that it was a brilliant piece of jackassery. Then, you know, get on with the face punching.
But his son, who I'm still not happy about, seems to be carrying that.
And, it turns out, that the real mission was to test out the memory implant tech, to see if the blanked memories are still blanked when they get possessed and other such, like, say, what happens to Hawkeye in the preview (I'd post that but it requires too many pictures to get the whole thing, so...).
It also turns out, that the memory erasing implants also allow them to alter the blanked out memories, so when they get reactivated, they remember things different from what really happened. You know, like things that would make them unwilling to work for them.

They wanted to test out the memory tech, so they thought the best way was to shoot an Avenger? OK, what was the plan if it failed? What would happen if the memory stuff gave away and Clint remembered he got shot? What would they do when Captain America came knocking on their door demanding to know why Hawkeye was shot by SHIELD to test out some special tech?

Anyway, the next issue brings in Taskmaster (Yay!), issue three's recruiting the new Iron Patriot (who is almost definitely Rhodey), issue Four's recruiting Hulk, then I assume they'll be recruiting the remaining agents in need of recruiting. Honestly I would've proffered Bobbi be the second recruit, but you have to wait for nice things. I'll assume they'll be adding more team members each issue for the first five or six issues, then release that as a trade, it seems the most likely.

Date: 2013-02-13 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kevinroc
Marvel just released a teaser image for Ion Man 3 of Don Cheadle wearing the Iron Patriot costume.

Date: 2013-02-13 07:48 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
And we do know how Marvel just likes to shove those movie tie-ins right up our butts.

Date: 2013-02-16 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Quite a few things are done in comics just to drive up the sales figures, and Joss Whedon is making the Marvel division of Disney a shitload more money than Bendis is.

Date: 2013-02-16 08:25 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I'm not entirely sure where Bendis has to come into the equation other than I've mentioned him elsewhere. And that's still no justification for the manner in which Marvel do shoehorn in these ridiculous tie-ins, as if more people are actually buying comics because of the movies, when it's blatantly not the case. Whedon might make them more money than Bendis, but he's making money on movies that don't directly affect comic sales.

Date: 2013-02-13 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Why is Spencer setting out to make Hill an asshole again? I'd hope she'd know better than to be involved in something like this after Fury left SHIELD because of shit like this. And dammit, I actually LIKED Hill in Invincible Iron Man.

Date: 2013-02-14 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
She's been one consistently in every appearance I've seen in New Avengers.

Date: 2013-02-14 05:33 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Which, again, seems to be based on the most 'popular' storyline she's in.

Date: 2013-02-14 06:11 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Which stinks, frankly. I hate that whenever most people bring up Hill, they seem to have the 'telling Captain America to do as he's told or get his ass arrested' scene in mind as defining her whole character, despite them often knowing full well who wrote that scene and what his attitude toward America tends to be.

Yes, she used psychics on Spider-Man, yes, she was kind-of obnoxious in some of her early appearances, but given the way Marvel was leaning at that point, 'obnoxious' could be said of a lot of Marvel characters. I also hate that they gave her shit for the things she did, despite the fact you could guarantee Fury would never get the same treatment.

Date: 2013-02-14 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I'd agree, if you're talking about the old volume of New Avengers. Fraction and Bendis himself did a hell of a lot of work, to me, making her more palatable from about Secret Invasion onward - she appeared to have learnt her lesson from Civil War, although maybe not being written by Millar helps. Here? This is straight back into the dickery, and like Daisy - She should know better. Maria KNOWS her predecessor got his ass thrown out of SHIELD for this kind of thing.
Edited Date: 2013-02-14 05:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-15 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I don't remember her not being an asshole anywhere else, really, but then after a while I only read Invincible through S_D, so that may have something to do with it.

Date: 2013-02-13 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] norj
They weren't testing the bullets, SHIELD wanted to be sure that the memory implants worked so they had him captured and interrogated by the bad guys.

Date: 2013-02-13 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] protogarrett
Nah... this won't bite SHIELD in the ass. It'll be cool.

Also, is that Maria Hill or Daisy Johnson. (Poor Daisy... she got to be an Avenger - in the background - for one mission. Seemed like a waste of a good plot line having a SHIELD agent controlling the Avengers from within, though I suppose that's what this is now.)

Date: 2013-02-13 08:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Hill's working with this team of Avengers, presumably with some overlap with her appearances in Hulk - who I think knows about this stuff already. Daisy is still the current Director of SHIELD, from what I know - which is one of the reasons the 'Von Bardas op' gets referenced here. Daisy was involved with that and that involved memory implants just like the ones being used here.

Date: 2013-02-13 10:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chieflewal
Yeah you'd think being an world security force that's messed up so bad in the past, they might kind of lay low, play it straight, maybe do some desk work for a while.

Date: 2013-02-13 08:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filthysize
Oh boy. This premise makes the ending of Brubaker's Winter Soldier really awkward.

Date: 2013-02-13 09:58 pm (UTC)
chieflewal: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chieflewal
Ha. Yes. Sometimes I wonder what it's like sitting in that room on those Marvel retreats.

Date: 2013-02-13 10:09 pm (UTC)
filthysize: (Default)
From: [personal profile] filthysize
Brubaker's not with Marvel anymore. Safe!

"Okay, nobody tell Ed we're undoing his ending, like, a week later, okay? Good. Now onto our next movie tie-in event."
Edited Date: 2013-02-13 10:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-13 09:51 pm (UTC)
sun_man: this is Dick Grayson (Default)
From: [personal profile] sun_man
wow this was awesome. Nick Fury is the fucking man! Definetly going to be following this book

Date: 2013-02-14 06:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] salinea
I think it's way more creepy to have a character who has always been white but who now appear as a PoC via tech. It's, like, blackface, which is pretty damn creepy.

(I think Psylocke is very creepy too).

Date: 2013-02-15 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
I think what bothered me more was the reveal at the end that his name actually is Nick Fury. That just seemed like too much. I've thought since then that it would have been better if they find his birth certificate says "Marcus Nicolas Fury," and people decide to nickname him "Nick."

That said, I kinda love how they lampshaded that whole thing here and related it to Bond chronology. :D

Date: 2013-02-14 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alan_smithee
On a social-political level, there is something disconcerting about a grown African-American man discovering that his father is effectively "THE MAN" and a key part of the military-industrial complex and then completely disregarding his identity to be effectively mirror the life of his father.

or something...

Date: 2013-02-15 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Yeah--in the first page he appears in, Nick is referred to as Agent Fury.

Date: 2013-02-16 12:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Why would ANYONE agree to sign up for a series of missions involving mindwipes, when SHIELD has, on numerous occasions, been completely compromised by bad guys?


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