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The President and his secretary of defense discuss Superman involvement in interfering in USA military affairs.

Superman comes to the farm an hour later.

Date: 2013-02-27 05:04 am (UTC)
sailorlibra: (ugh that's disgusting)
From: [personal profile] sailorlibra
Why did I even click the link; this comic is just as shitty as I knew it would be. Ughhhhhhh.

Date: 2013-02-27 05:04 am (UTC)
simiansyndicate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] simiansyndicate
Dear US Government:




PS---no, really, don't do this.

Date: 2013-02-27 03:49 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie

Date: 2013-02-28 01:08 am (UTC)
protogarrett: (Default)
From: [personal profile] protogarrett
Dear Government,
I will vaporize high ranking government officials and their families and begin wiping out entire military bases every ten minutes until you return my parents. If you harm or kill them I will vaporize ALL government officials and military bases.


Date: 2013-02-27 05:06 am (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
Yeah, piss off the dude who just murdered the Joker in space...and can fire laser death beams from space.

Date: 2013-02-27 05:12 am (UTC)
featheredserpent: (Default)
From: [personal profile] featheredserpent
My question is, how the HAYell does Supes not know this is happening for a whole hour? Does anyone in Black Ops have some way of taking the Kent homestead out of his vision/hearing/senses for that long without him noticing that it is off-line?

Date: 2013-02-27 05:22 am (UTC)
goattoucher: (ShockedMags)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
:jingles keys:

Look at that!

Look at That!

:throws keys:


:Absconds before FS can return for a logical answer:

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Date: 2013-02-27 05:21 am (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
Is there any use shady government operations won't find for Mirror Master technology?

Date: 2013-02-27 05:23 am (UTC)
equinox216: (Default)
From: [personal profile] equinox216
"Wait, using this Mirror-world teleportation I can both view and SHAVE my own back, directly? FANTASTIC."

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Date: 2013-02-27 06:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aravis
Oh for crying out loud... What kind of person actually buys this? And *likes* it? This comic is trying to re-define the word "terrible", taking it to new lows.

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Date: 2013-02-27 06:44 am (UTC)
salinea: Deadpool has a fucking horned hat on and is ready to kick gum and chew ass. Errr, moderate s_d. (mod hat)
From: [personal profile] salinea
Hey, don't formulate your disgust for a story in a way that could be seen as an insult to potential readers who may frequent the community, please.

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Date: 2013-02-27 06:59 am (UTC)
chrisdv: (Green Arrow)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
Y'know what would've made more sense? Trapping Superman in the Mirror World.

Sure, Mirror Master can't use his powers anymore. But the US Government would let him have ANYTHING he wanted until he dies.

Date: 2013-02-27 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Given that MM discovers a new mirror world every second Thursday, I don't think that would have hampered his powers at all.

The guy's tech allows transmutation, teleportation, time travel, access to all kinds of alternate universes...any government would have a decent shot at world domination if they used him right (or simply duplicated his devices.)

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Date: 2013-02-27 07:37 am (UTC)
sigmund_droid: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sigmund_droid
You know, this is actually great evidence towards Superman actually conquering the world.

I for one welcome our new Kryptonian overlord.

Date: 2013-02-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
yeah me to.

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Date: 2013-02-27 09:31 am (UTC)
lucky_gamble: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucky_gamble
This is how they deal with an angry "god"? For real-real? Not for play-play?

Date: 2013-02-27 09:46 am (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
Mark Waid's Not!Superman did this so much better.

Date: 2013-02-27 09:50 am (UTC)
magus_69: (pic#370603)
From: [personal profile] magus_69
To whomever concocted this cockamamie contrivance:

Sir, I know Amanda Waller. I have read of her exploits, watched her on television, and have basked in the magnificence that is The Wall. Sir, you are no Amanda Waller.

ETA: This is directed to the fictional person who made this plan, not the writer.
Edited Date: 2013-02-27 09:51 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-27 10:15 am (UTC)
louisadkins: Default Icon (Default)
From: [personal profile] louisadkins
. . . What? Who thought...?! How..?

*Blue Screen of Dumb* *Brain Reboot*

Did I just read that? Did someone actually threaten to abduct, torture, maim and/or kill the Kents in an attempt to control Superman?

This is a new level of #NotThoughtThrough.

The Man of Steel would be supremely unwilling to allow such to occur. Not to mention his friends.

Even if it's a situation where said friends and Supes are unable to keep a close eye on them, it would not be hard for him to find a good, out of the way, place to hide them until the problem could be resolved (eyebeam/superstrenth punch/super breath/super eye lash flicked across the planet at terrible speed and accuracy/etc).
Edited Date: 2013-02-27 10:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-27 11:28 am (UTC)
chrisdv: (Superman)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
Did I just read that? Did someone actually threaten to abduct, torture, maim and/or kill the Kents in an attempt to control Superman?

No no no, of course not. That's just plain stupid...

They actually did abduct the Kents, before proceeding to threaten to torture, maim and/or kill them in an attempt to control Superman. Which is completely different & not stupid at all or likely to make things worse in any way.

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Date: 2013-02-27 01:34 pm (UTC)
blunderbuss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blunderbuss
... So ... even if they were forced to act against his family - which, while risky and cruel, is still something that should be on the table but only as a LAST RESORT OPTION FFS - why do it in the most ridiculously over the top way possible?

There's a lot of ways a government can make life hell for people. Why not suddenly foreclose the family farm? Revoke their citizenship? Parachute-drop poisoned mice from a plane onto their house?

Date: 2013-02-27 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Because interfering with Superman's family on a lower level would result in Superman taking reciprocal action. Angry!God Superman is not the sort of person you want to piss off a little bit.

Date: 2013-02-27 01:35 pm (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
Brillant plan, dudes. Why don't you convince Batman to help you out by doing a puppet show with the corpses of his parents? That's on the same level as this.

Date: 2013-02-27 03:53 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
ashorrible as this is, yeah that is pretty much the equivilent.

Date: 2013-02-27 05:34 pm (UTC)
mortimerwclankitybritches: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mortimerwclankitybritches
..... really? the grand plan to keep the now insanely angry and violent physical god who can literally hurl your entire continent into the sun on a whim, and who has just suffered the death of several of his loved ones.... is to abduct and threaten to torture/mutilate/evicerate his two remaining loved ones?

Date: 2013-02-27 08:45 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
And that Kids, is how our President turned Superman into our new world leader.

Now, lets all Kneel Before Kal-El and silently curse the idiots who did this.

Date: 2013-02-28 10:49 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Russ Cargill: Mr. President, you chose me, Russ Cargill, most successful man in America, to head the Superman Stopping Team, the government agency most likely to be UNsuccessful . Why did I take the job? Because I'm just a rich guy who wants to kick some Kryptonian ass. I want to give something back. Not the money, but something. That's why I've narrowed your choices down to five unthinkable options.... Each one will cause untold misery and...
President Schwarzenegger: I pick Number Three!
Russ Cargill: Really? You don't want to read them first?
President Schwarzenegger: I was elected to *lead*, not to *read*. Number Three!

Date: 2013-02-27 11:38 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah, because this plan worked out so well for the Hood oh wait no it didn't.

Date: 2013-02-27 11:40 pm (UTC)
bardbrain: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bardbrain
I want to reiterate that from what I've seen, the writer is a clever guy with good writing sensibilities but that his only involvement with the big plot beats is that he didn't walk away from the assignment when they were provided to him.

This comic was plotted by Palmiotti/Gray and a bunch of Mortal Kombat video game designers. The writer, who I gather really, strongly dislikes elements of the plot, took writing this series as something of a challenge.

I'd say it's well written and badly plotted, personally.

The big stuff (killing pregnant Lois, killing the Joker, kidnapping the Kents) was all mandated. Whereas the dialogue and the specifics are where the writer jumped in. He actually forced a change on Lois' death as they were leaning towards a Mortal Kombat fatality and he pushed to make it bloodless. I suspect the Harley/Arrow stuff is where the writer added his touches and again, here, by having McCulloch pull the government hit as a mod to Animal Man (where the government basically turned out to be the writer dealing with the death of his cat and trying to appease reader bloodlust).

I think it's very fair to call this whole thing a series of painful ideas, brilliantly executed by a creative team who is too good for this assignment.

As for the idea that this book is no big deal, it is, I believe, DC's topselling Kindle release and probably has a wider audience than anything "in universe" that DC does, God help us all.

Date: 2013-02-28 12:20 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Just curious where'd you read that they wanted to make Lois' death gorier?

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Date: 2013-02-28 04:42 am (UTC)
neurotic_kitten: (Default)
From: [personal profile] neurotic_kitten
Yes please, piss off the physical god that can kill you by looking at you before you even take a breath. How in the hell did anybody think that this was a good idea? Are they all carrying the idiot ball?

Date: 2013-02-28 07:40 am (UTC)
lissa_quon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lissa_quon
I think they ARE the idiot ball.

Date: 2013-02-28 07:32 am (UTC)
writeofway: (Default)
From: [personal profile] writeofway
This series is BEGGING me to review it.

Date: 2013-02-28 01:24 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
Again, this strikes me as a decent idea, somewhat clumsily executed in the broad strokes. It goes a long way to set up what is basically the DC comics version of Mortal Kombat. Personally, it seems they're overthinking it, to me...but that's not my call.

In terms of story, this seems INCREDIBLY DUMB. Unless their goal is to goad Superman into angry action and then take him out then, I'm not seeing how this plan is supposed to work. It seems to be playing off of the notion that Superman is still very decent enough to play by the rules, which then makes going to the what is effectively 'the nuclear option' an incredibly poor choice. Because if Supes IS a rule-abider and you believe that to be true, then you'd approach him NICELY or at least with a sense of moral outrage and argue from that.

EDIT: Okay, I misread the piece. Looking again, I see that they kidnap the Kents. Using a VERY HIGHLY IDENTIFIABLE ASSET, aka Mirror Master. Yeah, he'll never track HIM down. Still a dumb plan, but not as bad as I initially thought.
Edited Date: 2013-02-28 01:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-28 04:04 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Given Mirror Master's abilities have included accessing complete other dimensions and changing his appearance by stealing other people's reflections, he's perhaps the ideal one for the mission, and his hiding out afterwards would be fairly straightforward.

Date: 2013-02-28 03:41 pm (UTC)
sean_613: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sean_613
The whole "Superman turns rogue" angle is alienating me from buying the new Injustice video game, let alone this comic.


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