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I don't think it really had anything to do with his personal life--at least, there wasn't anything in Ultimatum that says that. I think they thought of the idea that with the Ultimate Universe, you could basically do shit that you could not get away with on their "normal" characters and they went too far and/or too stupid with it.

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Worse, he looks like Movieverse Starscream, the ONE movie design I can honestly say was stupid and wrong. Well, that and one-legged Arcee and her 'sisters'.

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thanekos

Ultimate Black Knight II: the answer to " What if DARPA built a Darkhawk? "

(The best Ultimization this issue, though, had to be the name reuse for the Attorney General. It's almost Tangential, the way they do things like that.)

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nate_abril96

Ultimate Wonder Man reminds me kind of Christian Bale Batman. "WHERE IS HE?! WHERE'S BIN LADEN?! RAAAAAAAAAGGGHH!!!" (Also that RAAAAAAGGGH, at the end... hilarious.)

Edited Date: 2013-03-17 05:09 am (UTC)

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Now I wonder how long it took DC to find Osama Bin Laden, considering they had Batman, who I'm sure would be willing to take a break from defending Gotham to drag Bin Laden back. If not him, Superman probably would.

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Oof, these pages look like they embody all of the things I like least about Ultimate Marvel. Needlessly brutal "superheroes" fighting generic terrorists in a vaguely topical setting, all of them sporting dull as dishwater updated designs. Wonderman and Black Knight have got to be the worst here, Wonderman just looks goofy and nothing about him beyond the insignia on the costume reminds me of the original character, and Black Knight is now just another boring dude in an overdesigned suit of power armor.

Maybe these are better in context, and I know that Ultimate Marvel's been doing some interesting things lately, but I mean, pages like these are exactly why I never really got into Ultimate Comics.

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maseiken

They're exactly why I regret getting into Ultimate comics.
Ultimates 1 "Hey Interesting."
Ultimates 2 "Ok, I guess, bu-"
Ultimates 3 "I am both stupider and angrier for having read this. It has hurt my very sense of self."

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ensiform

I thought Ult2 was so over the top it was hilarious, and actually had a nice emotional closure at the end, bringing everyone together to save the world. But I like how you express Ult3 so perfectly.

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maseiken

I was following on with Ultimates 2 right up until hawkeye's family got fridged. Wasn't necessary, didn't lead to anything halfway decent, actively shows off how thoroughly Hank was fondling the idiot ball. Plus Cap's character had been pretty screwed up by the whole "FRANCE?!" debacle, and his reaction to the Liberators did NOT help. The Thor storyline was good though, credit where it's due.

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ensiform

Curse you for reminding me of the fridging of Hawkeye's family, and the ludicrous breakout-by-fingernail. I guess I had blacked that part out of my memory.

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Ya I really liked Thor's whole part of the story. What I did not enjoy was Hawkeye's bit, or the fact that his family's death became his entire personality and made him a pretty terrible character in Ult 3. Although that entire book was terrible.

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sadoeuphemist

I think Wonder Man looks almost exactly like Wonder Man:

http://marvel.com/images/gallery/story/13276/images_from_earths_mightiest_costumes_wonder_man/image/784266

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Well maybe I phrased that wrong; The costume, while similar to the classic look, very much a generic "modern" look, and without the W on the chest he could just be any random supermook. And physically, he looks far more monster-y and roided up, not at all like the movie star-ish Wonderman of the 616 U.

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sadoeuphemist

I dunno, if you took the W off the classic Wonder Man I don't think I'd be able to recognize him either.

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Yeah it's easier to recognize him when he's got his whole outfit with the sunglasses and the jacket, by itself his basic costume jumpsuit thing is a very generic look. Personally I always think of his proper costume as having the jacket and so on because it very much works with his personality imo.

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icon_uk

The red kirby-krackle glowing eyes would usually be something of a giveaway.

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The first two Ultimates books were really good. Then Ultimates 3 happened and everything just kinda went down hill from there. Ultimatum should never be spoken of in public. If you go to a dark room and say "Ultimatum" three times in front of a mirror Jeph Loeb appears and just laughs at you.

The recent arcs with Hydra and where they fought Reed Richards were excellent, and it looked like they had turned things around, but now they're bringing out ANOTHER hulk character. By my count, this will make four (or more if you count the time Blade, War Machine, Hawkeye, Fury, and the Punisher were all the hulk). We'll see how this arc goes.

I've always enjoyed Ultimate Spiderman, which were usually well done. I'm really liking the new ones with Miles, so hopefully they can keep it up.

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-Ultimatum should never be spoken of in public. If you go to a dark room and say "Ultimatum" three times in front of a mirror Jeph Loeb appears and just laughs at you. -

Weird how that reminds me of a joke me and a friend made about Ultimatum, One More Day, and a few other 'stories', that if you go to San Diego Comic Con and announce loudly that you thought they were the best comic ever, and that all comics should be like them, you get tackled to the ground and big people stamp on you.

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Geez, one more day. Now there's a story that should never be mentioned, let alone have a Wikipedia page. I really hope somebody comes along and sets it right, although I guess Peter would have to be alive again

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Give it another four years. There's a few writers I know didn't like it, by that point they should have the authority to undo it.

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"you get tackled to the ground and big people stamp on you."

It would probably look something like this.

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ensiform

Wonderman? You mean WonderBane.

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"and I know that Ultimate Marvel's been doing some interesting things lately,"

Basically it's been Miles Morales and Hickman's Evil Reed arc. That's about it, from what I can tell. Ultimates went WAY downhill once Humphrees got on the title.

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Ya, Miles is awesome, and the arc with Reed looked like a return to form. I though the battle between the Children and the People was pretty cool, especially Zorn, the singularity.

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selke

One word: "GRAAWL." I don't know why I'm amused as I am.

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rainspirit

The Ultimates is kind of the go-to place for scary, roided out anti-heroes yelling ridiculous dialogue.

"HULK WANT FREDDIE PRINZE JUNIOR!"

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chrisdv

The Ultimate universe is still a thing?

As far as I was aware/concerned, it died when Peter Parker died.

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q99

I'd say the Miles stuff isn't bad either. Just, y'know, avoid anything without someone in a Spider-costume.

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mrstatham

Ultimate X-Men under Brian Wood has been pretty solid.

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theflames

Ahhh, that's a shame, I think you'd be doing your self a solid to read the new stuff with Ultimate X-men *and* Ultimate Spider Man, Miles Morales is a good character.

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He will save us all

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big_daddy_d

Hmm honestly I thought Ben Grimm would become Ultimate Wonder Man. Seems like this version had a bit of the Gamma treatment.

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I've wondered about Ultimate Ben Grimm myself, he underwent a whole metamorphosis and "hatched" from his rocky hide with sweet new powers and a human appearance, declared his love for Sue, who reciprocated, and then.... Nothing. Some really great plot threads just left hanging.

It's one of the more annoying things about Ultimate Marvel only having a few titles out. Would it kill them to give us a mini? I mean, Ultimate Wolverine is getting one, so something new with the FF would be great.

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You'd think that Ben and Sue would especially play a bigger role nowadays since this whole situation came from Reed becoming the ultimate world conqueror/Nice Guy.

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