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So... the Penguin. What a wimp, right? Some writers make him one of the smartest Batman villains to make up for it; others portray him utterly pathetic on all fronts and ride it for every laugh it's worth.

And some writers just say nuts to all of that. Like Alan Grant, circa 1989's Secret Origins Special. A cut above most of Grant's work, if I do say so myself - but that might just be a result of the wonderfully moody art, which I find to be only enhanced by the poor paper/ink quality.

Penguin does Rocky

And now, the song parody (changing a few words around counts as parody, right?) that instantly popped to my head when I saw this page. Be warned: it was apparently so bad that none of my buddies on tumblr would reblog or even like the post.

And it’s the eye of the Penguin

The thrill of the fight
Rising up to the challenge of those bullies
And the last known survivor
Stalks them all from the ice
And he’s watching them all with the eye…

… of the Penguin.


Date: 2013-09-20 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
Non Sequitur: Did you use to post here as TheHefner?

Date: 2013-09-20 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] omgwtflolbbqbye
Oooh. Ok.

Well I asked cause the older Batman stuff I saw you posting recently reminded me of him and and inspired me to go back and reread a lot of stuff.

Keep up the good work!
Edited Date: 2013-09-20 01:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-20 01:06 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos

So, The Batman interpretation of the Penguin as a martial arts master had some grounding in reality after all.

Well, except for the robot Geisha's.

Date: 2013-09-20 09:10 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Were they confirmed as robots? I just thought they were a couple of hench-geisha's

Date: 2013-09-20 11:25 am (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
I don't really think its ever concerned WHAT they are, but IIRC they never spoke and they had a very VERY wide range of movement on their limbs.

So either robots or Penguin found a pair of contortionists who put Ty Lee to shame.

Date: 2013-09-21 12:46 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
In the Animated universes you can get a ninja PA (Like Baby Doll did in BTAS), it wouldn't surprise me that contortionist assassins are available for employment.

Date: 2013-09-20 03:14 am (UTC)
zapbiffpow: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
The sight of watching Penguin do karate is new and strange, but yeah, I can see him having some non-acrobatic street-brawling skills! Kind of like an old boxer gone to seed.

Date: 2013-09-20 05:22 am (UTC)
randyripoff: (Josiah X)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
I dunno.

I can see the Penguin being ruthless and underhanded to make his rise to the top, but I just can't buy him being any sort of brute or martial artist.

Now, if he'd hidden a zip gun up his sleeve, that would make sense.

Date: 2013-09-20 01:26 pm (UTC)
skemono: I read dead racists (Default)
From: [personal profile] skemono
Not even bartitsu? He is a gentleman, after all. Just look: he's so devoted to his gentlemanly class that he won't even take his monocle out while boxing.

Date: 2013-09-20 05:36 pm (UTC)
randyripoff: (howard the duck)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
Nope. There's a number of things I could see the Penguin doing in this case, but nothing so mundane as simply punching the bully in the mouth.

Hidden derringer? Yes.

Fist full of sand to the eyes followed by hitting the bully in the head with a large rock? Yes.

Blindsiding said bully with a car? Yes.

Date: 2013-09-20 11:37 pm (UTC)
ensiform: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ensiform
I agree 100%. This just rings false to me for the Penguin. Your ideas all sound so much better.

Date: 2013-09-20 02:51 pm (UTC)
jkcarrier: me, at my old office (Default)
From: [personal profile] jkcarrier
Yeah, I can't get behind "Penguin as brawler" either. Would have been much more believable, and thematically consistent, if he'd taken out the bully with his first weaponized umbrella:
"What ya gonna do, peck me to death?"
"Something like that."

Date: 2013-09-20 05:52 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
I remember this. I took a lot of influence off Sam Kieth (mostly from EPICURUS) and have always liked the art on this story. But Sam Kieth could draw anything and I'd love it.

At the same time, I also always thought the attempt to darken the Penguin here was a bit forced. And also very typical of that particular moment at DC, around 88-90, to sludge the DCU up a bit post-Miller and Moore.

Date: 2013-09-20 09:13 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
IIRC Alan Moore did one of the "brighter" more classically golden age Penguin stories, where he reforms because he's fallen in love (for real) and Batman's constant paranoia about him reverting to criminality is what eventually leads to him being sent back to jail, when the worst thing he'd done was violate his parole by mixing with criminals (inasmuch as he started a factory which was giving ex-cons a genuine, second chance by offering them a chance to earn an honest living)

It's an awesome story which I must see if I can dig out.

Date: 2013-09-20 10:33 am (UTC)
squirle: (Default)
From: [personal profile] squirle
That was Alan Moore?! Wow. Turns out I was a fan of his work before I even knew who he was!

Date: 2013-09-20 12:03 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Yeah, he wrote both stories in that annual, the Penguin one, and the Clayface III one. Both are excellent.

Date: 2013-09-20 01:35 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Really? Wow, I'd forgotten it wasn't Moore, and even more that something so charming and frothy came from the guy who helped create the world's most sullen Robin.

Date: 2013-09-20 01:53 pm (UTC)
skemono: I read dead racists (Default)
From: [personal profile] skemono
he reforms ... and Batman's constant paranoia about him reverting to criminality is what eventually leads to him being sent back to jail

How many people has Batman done that to?

I remember the Calendar Man special had him reform, then Batman showed up in his apartment and snarled "I'll be watching you every moment of your life" so he went back to committing crime.

And he also kinda drove Harvey Dent back to being a criminal because he instantly suspected him of being a murderer.

Date: 2013-09-20 02:44 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Also, there's a suggestion that he might have done the same with the Mad Hatter (Or Hatman as he now seems to be being called) in the Barr/Davis run, though it might well have been that the Hatter was already headed that way.

Date: 2013-09-20 06:01 am (UTC)
dr_archeville: Doctor Arkeville (Default)
From: [personal profile] dr_archeville
Hunh. So was this an in-joke at how Burgress Meredith played both Penguin in the 1960s BATMAN show, and Mickey Goldmill, an ex-bantamweight fighter, in the ROCKY movies?

Date: 2013-09-20 10:04 am (UTC)
damar148: (Default)
From: [personal profile] damar148
I recall that thinking himself a physical match for Batman was mentioned as his biggest flaw, which eventually was rectified by going semi-legit with the Iceberg Lounge, but I could easily see him taking up boxing and judo and other martial arts to improve himself by any means possible.

Date: 2013-09-20 12:03 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I'm trying to recall any story where he viewed himself as a physical match for Batman, and not coming up with much. I confess I would find it just to be too much of a stretch that a short, podgy (if not actually obese), unfit little man would be a serious physical match for Batman or Robin without the aid of his gimmicked umbrella's and well paid gang of henchmen.

Date: 2013-09-20 03:46 pm (UTC)
damar148: (Default)
From: [personal profile] damar148
As I said, he believed himself which was his flaw according to Batman rather than send henchmen to do his fighting and crimes. I was specifically thinking of a 90's story where he faked being dead through hypnosis to escape from jail.


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