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The newest DC weekly has begun with a solid start as some old faces are reintroduced to the DCnU, and a Shocking Event that will have repercussions in the weeks to come...
Quick summary, Jason Bard is hired by Jim Gordon to be a new Shift Lieutenant for the Major Crimes Unit, and is given a tour of the place by Harvey Bullock. They meet Major Forbes, who appears to be a Gotham cop of the pre-Gordon mold, who talks ominously about how Gordon has the city wrong, and the trick to surviving in Gotham is knowing which side to back when things start falling apart.
...Such as what's happening in the rest of the issue, which is a team up between Batman and Jim Gordon against Professor Pyg and his hired goons. Pyg's kidnapped and injected a bunch of kids with some kind of chemical to turn them into dollotrons, a course of action that naturally doesn't make Batman and the Commissioner feel particularly lenient towards the villains.
As Batman deals with Pyg, Gordon chases one of the henchmen... and things begin falling apart.



The train ploughs into the subway station, injuring and killing an unknown amount of people. Batman catches up with Jim, and manages to shield him from the worse of the resulting crash. Afterwards he tells him that he'd patched himself into the subway station's CCTV cameras (something established he can do in Harper Row's introductory story), and the guy didn't have a gun despite Jim's insistance that he trying to disarm him by shooting it out of his hand.
Gordon asks as backup finally arives whether this is the point Batman'll disappear, but this time he says he'll stay. Jim tells him to go, as there are people who need his help more than he does right now. Maggie Sawyer, Major Forbes and Jason Bard show up, who don't react well to Jim admitting he'd fired the shot that caused the disaster to happen.

Jim is lead away in handcuffs, while some firemen react with disbelief that Gordon could do something like this, even by accident. They do admit though that he is only human, and that something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. After all, he's not Batman for crying out loud...
Mini-review: Loved the art and character moments between Jim and the other characters. Although I can see why they added the train disaster (a Good Cop shooting a man who'd help kidnap and drug children isn't exactly something most people would be adverse to), it kind of felt a little overblown. In my opinion at least.
The ending does leave me curious as to where it'll go next, though I have a feeling that Major Forbes (the dude who orders Gordon's arrest) will probably become the new Commissioner, leading to the GCPD sliding back into the Bad Old Days of the Loeb years...
The "Gordon possibly framed for killing a suspect" thing does seem oddly like something from Batman Beyond, but it's too early to say how this plays out.
Quick summary, Jason Bard is hired by Jim Gordon to be a new Shift Lieutenant for the Major Crimes Unit, and is given a tour of the place by Harvey Bullock. They meet Major Forbes, who appears to be a Gotham cop of the pre-Gordon mold, who talks ominously about how Gordon has the city wrong, and the trick to surviving in Gotham is knowing which side to back when things start falling apart.
...Such as what's happening in the rest of the issue, which is a team up between Batman and Jim Gordon against Professor Pyg and his hired goons. Pyg's kidnapped and injected a bunch of kids with some kind of chemical to turn them into dollotrons, a course of action that naturally doesn't make Batman and the Commissioner feel particularly lenient towards the villains.
As Batman deals with Pyg, Gordon chases one of the henchmen... and things begin falling apart.



The train ploughs into the subway station, injuring and killing an unknown amount of people. Batman catches up with Jim, and manages to shield him from the worse of the resulting crash. Afterwards he tells him that he'd patched himself into the subway station's CCTV cameras (something established he can do in Harper Row's introductory story), and the guy didn't have a gun despite Jim's insistance that he trying to disarm him by shooting it out of his hand.
Gordon asks as backup finally arives whether this is the point Batman'll disappear, but this time he says he'll stay. Jim tells him to go, as there are people who need his help more than he does right now. Maggie Sawyer, Major Forbes and Jason Bard show up, who don't react well to Jim admitting he'd fired the shot that caused the disaster to happen.

Jim is lead away in handcuffs, while some firemen react with disbelief that Gordon could do something like this, even by accident. They do admit though that he is only human, and that something like this was bound to happen sooner or later. After all, he's not Batman for crying out loud...
Mini-review: Loved the art and character moments between Jim and the other characters. Although I can see why they added the train disaster (a Good Cop shooting a man who'd help kidnap and drug children isn't exactly something most people would be adverse to), it kind of felt a little overblown. In my opinion at least.
The ending does leave me curious as to where it'll go next, though I have a feeling that Major Forbes (the dude who orders Gordon's arrest) will probably become the new Commissioner, leading to the GCPD sliding back into the Bad Old Days of the Loeb years...
The "Gordon possibly framed for killing a suspect" thing does seem oddly like something from Batman Beyond, but it's too early to say how this plays out.
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Date: 2014-04-10 11:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-10 11:59 am (UTC)http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=21089
He makes swirlies like the Batman Beyond version has on his costume, though this version of him is mystical, not technology based.
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Date: 2014-04-11 08:04 pm (UTC)This is just like when people would complain about old/familiar faces showing up, but in reverse. At least those had a neat "where are they now?" quality that augmented the original/new guys.
This just feels like it's watering the whole thing down.
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Date: 2014-04-11 09:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-11 11:16 pm (UTC)Okay, I guess this one's okay, then. ;)
Still a little sore about "Blight," though. ;P
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Date: 2014-04-10 01:11 pm (UTC)The thing is, it'd work if somehow it was planned like this to frame Gordon, as something evidently made him see a gun that wasn't there. But it was already established in Scott Snyder's Harper Row stories that the wiring in most of Gotham's infrastructure is decades old, and is only barely kept running thanks to Batman secretly backing up sections of the electrical grid so he can hack into whatever camera he needs to, and electrical engineers like Harper herself.
It could be, and probably is, that someone deliberately rigged that train to crash, with Gordon happening to be present at the time happening to just be gravy. Though from what's already been established... yeah, it's possible that that fusebox was legitimately busted and this is the fault of Gotham City Borough Council or whatever.
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Date: 2014-04-10 07:10 pm (UTC)For the record, real subway systems have a number of electronic and mechanical interlocking devices to make such a "single point of failure" accident impossible, at least in terms of the result. Knocking out the fuse box might cause a powered switch to fail, but until such time as the switch was lined properly, both trains would be facing a red "stop" signal before the switch, and would have passed a signal set to a "caution" aspect that would restrict their speeds before they approached that last signal; if they were exceeding that speed restriction, a "penalty" emergency brake application would happen automatically. The speed restriction would require them to be able to stop the train completely within the maximum distance that the operator could see. Once the switch was thrown, the train moving onto the side track would have its red signal change to an "approach diverging" signal that would carry a continued speed restriction, this time down to the maximum speed permitted for the diverging route through the switch (if it's lower than the current maximum permitted speed); the train on the straight route would still have a red signal until such time as the other train had taken the side track and the switch had been relined to let the train on the straight route through, at which point the dispatcher would change it to green. These signals are automatic, displaying a green aspect only when the track is clear ahead with no diverging route set; they automatically show a red "stop" aspect if you're entering a block of track (section from one signal to the next) that another train is in, and show a yellow signal for at least one block before the red signal; the signals at switches can *only* be operated by the dispatcher with control over that particular interlocking, and feature both mechanical and electronic interlocks to prevent them from being set to display conflicting indications.
In other words, to make the collision shown possible, someone would have to have either disabled a whole lot of hardware and software in the signal system to allow two trains to approach the same point at full speed, or, slightly more plausibly, disabled the equipment that would trigger the automatic penalty brake applications on the trains involved.
Given that it WAS shown that the operators couldn't do anything to slow their trains down (by reducing throttle, applying brakes, or even throwing the reverse lever into the opposite direction, which would burn out the traction motors in very short order but drastically slow the train), and neither the dispatchers nor Alfred could even cut the power to the system (which is usually the last-ditch option to reduce the severity of such a situation), it was pretty heavily implied that Jim's bullet didn't break the system, but rather that there had been fairly heavy sabotage involved to cause a crash.
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Date: 2014-04-11 04:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-11 05:46 pm (UTC)The automatic block signals used between switches were introduced in the late 1890s, IIRC, and locally-controlled interlockings at switches (as opposed to how CTC puts most of those under remote control by a centralized dispatcher) were introduced even before that. The NYC Subway has installed a large number of additional safety systems on top of their ABS/CTC and ATS (or equivalent--I can't recall if they use the actual ATS system or something slightly different in detail) systems, to further improve safety, over the decades.
So what I'm describing isn't really a big new high-tech control system that'd cost Gotham billions to install--it's the stuff that's been industry-standard for almost a century now. (Many mainline railroads don't use ATS, because it requires a cab signal system to transmit the signal aspects to the on-train hardware, but they don't have nearly the traffic density that a major urban transit system has, and thus can't justify the expense. Any place where trains run 80 mph or faster, or where passenger trains run with the kind of density you see on a subway system, is required by federal law to use ATS or equivalent and cab signals...)
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Date: 2014-04-10 02:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-10 07:29 pm (UTC)Of course, Jim pulling the trigger in that situation would be considered an out-of-policy shooting and cause for criminal action against him, anyway--police officers are only authorized to use deadly force (firing a bullet, ramming a car with their cruiser, or anything else that could be reasonably expected to endanger someone's life) to protect themselves or the public from an *active, imminent* threat. If, for example, Victor Zsasz was ruled to have been rehabilitated by the doctors at Arkham (fat chance even THERE, but hey), even if he was seen walking through Gotham holding a machete, GCPD officers would not, legally, be able to shoot him unless he was A) brandishing it in a threatening manner, or B) moving to attack someone with it (i.e., charging at them), AND he was C) within the "deadly weapon" radius of a police officer or member of the public. (C varies by jurisdiction, but typically, a gun is considered to always be a deadly weapon, while a blade would typically be seen as deadly within 30 feet, since that's considered the distance that a suspect could sprint and attack with a blade without any time for the victim to react.)
In this case, while what Jim saw was a suspect with a gun, the gun was not aimed at anyone or being brandished threateningly; the suspect had his hands in a submissive position but still had the gun. Even if a disarming attempt *was* within policy for GCPD, it's NEVER within policy to pull the trigger if it's a situation where you can give a suspect to the count of three to do something, unless the situation radically changes and they suddenly pose an imminent threat.
So yeah, Jim, even if Bats proves that you were being set up, you done fucked up by shooting, because even what you saw wasn't an imminent threat.
That said, Jim Gordon is a good cop; if he saw an imminent threat, he'd just follow training and put as many rounds into center-mass as necessary to neutralize the threat... so even that doesn't ring true to me. (If this turns out to be a plot point--with Batman bringing up that Jim Gordon *wouldn't* go for the hero shot, but instead would go entirely within GCPD policy, and that this proves something was wrong with the situation--then it's a great idea. If not, then my choice of icon stands...)
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Date: 2014-04-10 09:17 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2014-04-10 03:54 pm (UTC)Now see if this was framing Batman I could see it but a good cop should not go for the hero shot and instead should have just dropped the guy. I mean this whole scenario would work better with Batman throwing at a gun to disarm and hitting the fuse box and then being on the run from the cops but it isn't time to pull that plot line out in the nu52 yet.
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Date: 2014-04-10 04:24 pm (UTC)It is a bit convenient/contrived, but hardly worse than what DC usually spits out. Still tentatively optimistic! :)
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Date: 2014-04-10 08:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-10 09:24 pm (UTC)As he seems the sort that has "connections".
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Date: 2014-04-10 09:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-04-10 09:56 pm (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Serpico
And then there's some of the things that the LAPD got up to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Collins#Christine_and_Walter_Collins
The sad truth is that as long as there have been policemen, there have been people who join up out of a sense of entitlement or a need for power rather than a desire to help people. From little things like cribbing free lunches at restaurants, to out and out corrupt like robbing drug dealers so they can sell their wares on their own terms.
The problem that Serpico and other whistleblowers have had is that when police corruption becomes accepted as the norm amongst the rank and file, then a) those higher up in the hierarchy sweep the claims under the rug as acknowledging they're corrupt brings scandal and disrepute to the department, and b) corrupt cops have a lot to loose if they're found out, so they tend to come down on people investigating them very, very hard. Sometimes lethally so.
It wasn't so much that Loeb and co from Year One were cartoonishly corrupt, it's just that people these days are more aware when that kind of thing happens due to social media and the like.
Forbes seems to be a guy like the two cops from the Gotham Central issue 'Nature', who see themselves as real policemen as they walk a beat and the like, while the MCU are snobs as they all wear suits and think they're better than the uniformed officers... which they are, as the two in the story in the course of an issue accidentally kill a teenage girl who saw them rolling a drug dealer for protection money, paid a forensic officer to "lose" the girl's belongings so that her murder would never be solved, and extorted money and sex from prostitutes.
He probably joined the force (which considering in Year Zero even Jim Gordon was a little corrupt) when it was more accepted, and saw it more as a means to make some cash while wielding power and a gun.