Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 01:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Rad story but I hope you realize that, and I know this may shock you, not everyone deals with things the same way! ~gasps~ I KNOW!

It's super cool you stood up for yourself, but lots of kids can't. Life isn't an episode of Punky Brewster where you stand up for yourself and the whole cafeteria slow claps for you, there's a good chance you get beaten up even worse.

So maybe save your anger for the things that aren't about, ya know, helping kids not kill themselves.

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bencomicgraphics
Life isn't clean; and standing up to one bully doesn't always makes all the bullies go away. However, all anti-bullying does is educate bullies on:
A) How to be more effective, simply by the virtue of listing bullying tactics and saying "Don't do these", you're in actuality giving them more ideas on what they can do.
B) Create a 'free-fire' zone where strict guidelines are given as to what they can get away with; so they will always push it to that threshold without fear of reprisal or punishment from authority, because that's what the guidelines say. The victim, on the inverse, now, if choosing to stand up for his or herself becomes the punished since the victim crosses that threshold first.
C) Creates a victim mentality for those bullied. I was bullied in school, a lot, but I rarely chose to see myself as a victim. Doing so gives the tormentors what they want: power over your life.

I've seen documentaries like "Bully" and what i see is an outcome that will do to bullying what DARE did to casual drug use.

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
You sound like a 45 year old man with literally no knowledge of how bullying has changed at all and are trying to apply your wacky childhood to other peoples lives while being woefully ignorant of every single issue.

You have absolutely, positively not a single clue what you're talking about.

Hope this helps.

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] bencomicgraphics
I'm actually 31. But it's nice to know if you don't like someone's opinion, you can merely attack it with personal attacks versus addressing what they laid out before you. ;)

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 05:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] punishermax
Hey man Im just teaching you to stand up for yourself, no need to act like a victim. God, it's just like that Bully documentary.

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-04 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] md84
A) How to be more effective, simply by the virtue of listing bullying tactics and saying "Don't do these", you're in actuality giving them more ideas on what they can do.

Like most bullies don't already know those tactics. At least this way they can't feign ignorance about their wrongdoings if caught.

B) Create a 'free-fire' zone where strict guidelines are given as to what they can get away with; so they will always push it to that threshold without fear of reprisal or punishment from authority, because that's what the guidelines say. The victim, on the inverse, now, if choosing to stand up for his or herself becomes the punished since the victim crosses that threshold first.

I agree with this one. There shouldn't be a 'free-fire' zone at all. Any bullying, no matter how 'minor', should be punished.

C) Creates a victim mentality for those bullied. I was bullied in school, a lot, but I rarely chose to see myself as a victim. Doing so gives the tormentors what they want: power over your life.

Congrats on finding a way to handle it. It is a real shame that you had to deal with something like that in the first place.

Re: Anti-Bullying is Bunk

Date: 2014-09-05 01:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
What are you actually proposing as an alternative here? That schools not have any anti-bullying rules at all and just let kids run wild on each other?

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