All-New Invaders #10

[laughing_tree]

"I don’t think anyone can trust Namor completely. Not because of anything necessarily utterly complicitous, but he is possibly the most mercurial hero character in the Marvel Universe." -- James Robinson

Nuremberg, 1946:





The present day:









The Torch wakes up then, but it seems his head's a bit scrambled from the attack that knocked him out, as he flies off into the sky in a frenzy.









Finally, in London:





"...and it's going to get even worse."

Comments

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

Wonder if we're ever see the V-Battlion in this series

[flint_marko]

Another character falls victim to Disney's mcu synergy.

[mrstatham]

If you're talking about Deathlok, then there's already about a half-dozen versions anyway, and even if the new series with the one spun off from AOS proves popular (which I doubt it will), they can still bring the oldest version back with no real trouble.

[akodo_rokku]

And the new one doesn't resemble AOS Deathlok in any real way anyway.

[flint_marko]

Physically he's closer to the AOS version, like Fury Jr resembles the MCU Fury.

And his character has more in common with the AOS version than he does with the previous Deathloks (for starters he's still alive, when the bodies of the previous Deathloks have been reanimated corpses).

[flint_marko]

If you're talking about Deathlok, then there's already about a half-dozen versions anyway

Didn't this story have all the Deathloks, sans the new one, disappear?

[mrstatham]

And you could just as easily bring them back. It's comics. Doom was once trapped in Hell. He got out by grabbing Mjolnir after Thor's 'death'. Anyone wants to bring the old Deathloks back, a handwave is easy.

[flint_marko]

I know, I was referring to your half-a-dozen version comment.

And yeah, anything is possible in comics, but it's still annoying how Marvel keeps changing their comics to fit in more with the MCU. First they got ruined the classic Nick Fury, and now this.

[mrstatham]

Right. I was just acknowledging that other Deathloks had appeared since the Manning version, so blaming the MCU version for displacing him seemed a little pointless because it's a concept that keeps getting revamped anyway. And again, they can bring him back if they want.

And to be fair, 'ruining' Classic!Nick wasn't really done due to the movie(s). He'd already been botched into a corner by Hickman with reveals that made no sense, and had long been displaced as the Head of SHIELD years before this new nonsense with him replacing the Watcher, or his appearance on film. True, bringing in Fury Jr displaced him further, but the damage was already long done thanks to Millar, Hitch, and their idea of SLJ as Fury being popular. Also, again, as pointed out, the new Deathlok doesn't really bear that much resemblance to the MCU version.

If you'd complained about Phil 'so bland what is he even here for?' Coulson getting shoe-horned into the comics, and now the even bland and generic Agents of Bland getting a book, I'd agree.

[flint_marko]

Honestly if they had brought Ultimate Nick Fury over into the 616 universe or something, I wouldn't have cared as much. But the whole thing about Nick Fury having a son, whose name is also Nick Fury, and he looks like the movie version, and he's basically taking Nick Fury's role in SHIELD, and most of the other characters treat him like he's Fury, is really annoying. It's like Marvel wants us to pretend he's always been Nick Fury.

Coulson doesn't bother me as much because he didn't replace any preexisting characters and he also hasn't really done that much outside of Secret Avengers, while Fury Jr is basically appearing in all the books.

(also, AOS stared off slow, but I think the series started picking up when they tied in with TWS and the Hydra sleeper agents).

As for the new deathlok, his appearance is a lot closer to the AOS version and his character has more in common with the AOS version than he does with the previous Deathloks (for starters he's still alive, when the bodies of the previous Deathloks have been reanimated corpses).

[cainofdreaming]

Collins and Truman were both alive too. Well, only Collins' brain was in the cyborg, the rest of the organics might have been dead or not.

[icon_uk]

Who is the" incredibly dashing older gay gentleman"? I feel I should recognise the outfit.

[skjam]

The Destroyer, I think?

[wizardru]

Yeah, that's the Destroyer. Technically, the third variation. There's the Golden Age version, who was replaced during the bronze age Invaders with Spitfire's brother, both of whom were son of the original Union Jack. That character, Brian Farnsworth, is given a version of the super-soldier serum while in a Nazi camp, but without the 'vita-rays' that are supposed to have stabilized Steve. He later gives up the Destroyer moniker to take up his father's legacy as Union Jack, while he gives the Destroyer to his friend Roger, who was Dyna-Mite, who had ALSO been exposed to the same super soldier formula.

Phew.

[beyondthefringe]

There was some sort of handwavium as well about how the original, Keen Marlow, let the others use his name in order to further the impression he was everywhere during the war... or something.

Kirkman did a (probably) non-canonical miniseries featuring the first dude as if he'd been active all the way up into modern times. It was everything you'd expect from Kirkman. :)

[starwolf_oakley]

When was the Illuminati called the Illuminati? Did they ever get that name officially, even as a sarcastic nickname?