Avengers #41

[flint_marko]

After T'Challa and Black Bolt's betrayal, Namor falls on the planet, where the Cabal find him. He explains that he had left before when he saw the ship in the sky, and explains how the Illuminati have probably tried trapping them on the planet before they blow it up.







So because T'Challa wanted his revenge, the Cabal survived (because Namor was able to warn them in time) and now he has a pissed-off Namor coming after him.

They land on Earth-1610, aka from the Ultimate Universe.

Comments

Re: Marvel going the New 52 route.

[7dialsmystery]

Marvel has actually announced the end of both Ultimates and Earth-616. Tom Brevoort has said all the old continuity is going to be replaced. I have a feeling they'll replace it with something closer to Ultimates (or the Movie-verse) because characters from 616 keep getting dumped into 1610.

http://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/marvel-announces-the-end-of-the-classic-marvel-universe-the-ultimate-universe-as-part-of-secret-wars/

Re: Marvel going the New 52 route.

[silverhammerman]

The only real intersection has been here, which setting up for Secret Wars, and All-New X-Men which is frankly a matter of Bendis wanting to use Miles Morales more often.

I don't doubt that Marvel will use the opportunity of Secret Wars to do some light revisions and make things closer to the movies, but the promise of actually ending both universes seems like little more than hype, as flint_marko said. I think the likeliest outcome is that we'll get a slightly revamped 616 universe with some of the more successful 1610 concepts (Miles Morales and.... well just Miles Morales) added in.

Re: Marvel going the New 52 route.

[jmacq1]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this whole Secret Wars business is basically just going to end up an "Age of Apocalypse" scenario. Things will be different for a year or so while they see what sticks and what doesn't, and then it'll fold back into a very 616 universe with the most popular holdouts from the alternate realities along for the ride and some continuity patching to make things more like the movies.

Re: Marvel going the New 52 route.

[q99]

The result's going to be 90% 616, 10% Ultimates at best, I'm pretty sure.