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Date: 2016-11-03 04:19 pm (UTC)It pisses me off so much how often that tired old trope comes up, and that it works every time! Can we please have a story somewhere that the "hero" tortures someone for information, believes it because it was obtained via torture and "nobody would lie through that," and it turns out to be fake because the victim was just telling the "hero" whatever they wanted to hear to make it stop?
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Date: 2016-11-03 05:54 pm (UTC)I think one show did a "Yeah, you gave up that information too fast. We'll have to torture you some more to be sure."
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Date: 2016-11-04 02:05 am (UTC)24 would never do that. One of the show's consistent themes is "torture is good when it's America doing it, it always gets good information, and fast, because our enemies are cowardly and weak, so they can't resist a little pain, and because our enemies are so evil that anything we do to them is justified." Having torture get bad information would crack one of the conceptual pillars holding that show's universe up.
Sorry, I'm soapboxing. Just my opinion.
Also, I hadn't known about the "let's torture him extra, just to make sure" moment. I'm disappointed, but not surprised.
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Date: 2016-11-04 03:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-11-04 03:34 am (UTC)I can't sigh hard enough to express my disappointment. Damn the exultation of torture in media, it feeds our ugly side.
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Date: 2016-11-04 08:44 am (UTC)Though in RDR the guy being tortured knew he would be dead either way, so that's probably the main reason he lied to you and set the protagonist to an ambush. But that still counts, right?
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Date: 2016-11-04 03:15 pm (UTC)It's something, at least. It says something when video games have a more nuanced view of torture than television.