Date: 2017-06-07 04:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] joetuss
"I did it right this time" *triggered*

Date: 2017-06-07 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beardedjellybean
Not the greatest Batman story ever, but still a reasonably decent comic. Addmitdly it's probably because Azzarello apparently did the majority of the story but I did enjoy it.

It was mostly nice to have heroes in anything created by Frank Miller not be completely self-righteous, obnoxious assholes.

Date: 2017-06-07 04:39 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
okay so... Lara is Supes and Lois' daughter?

Who is the new Batman?

Date: 2017-06-07 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beardedjellybean

It's still Bruce, he actually died about halfway through the story. Superman ended up throwing him into a Lazarus Pit, so now he's relatively young again.

Date: 2017-06-07 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beeyo
Bruce is still Batman. He was put in a Lazarus pit near the end of the book.

Date: 2017-06-07 04:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
huh... so he has a new outlook on life... are he and carrie... ummm like a couple now? (de aging does not make it less creepy...) has he lost memories? is she taking the lead now? did he and clark kiss and make up?

Date: 2017-06-07 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beeyo
I sincerely hope they aren't, but it did get a bit squirmy when Bruce came out of the pit, if not explicitly.

Pretty sure his memories are intact.

Yes, Bruce and Clark are cool now. There's a part where Supes starts beating the shit out of the Kryptonians Batman-style (think the "I'm a surgeon" scene in DKR) and Bruce is all "He was holding back all these years omg" and finally realizes that humanity needs Superman.
It's executed better than I make it seem.

Date: 2017-06-07 05:25 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (dead waynes shock)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
maybe i should read this... i have been wary of this.... but what i have heard seems promising.

Date: 2017-06-07 08:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ekrolo2
That fight is some of the most badass stuff Superman's done in years.

Date: 2017-06-08 03:32 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (ask the questions)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
why has no one posted that?

Date: 2017-06-07 05:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Lara is Clark and Diana's daughter, as per DKSA.

Date: 2017-06-07 05:29 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
really... :/ not sure how i feel about that....

Date: 2017-06-07 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I like DKSA, but it's the point I'm absolutely least fond of in DKSA, yeah. I can accept most of the story as Frank going "Okay, you fucks piggybacked what I wrote for so long and in an entirely stupid way, I'm going to go all Adam West-style Silver Age wacky", but there are parts that just.. Yeah.

Date: 2017-06-08 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeyl
"An Act of God"

I'll wait.

Also, at least it's a daughter. Almost every comic I've read with Wonder Woman having an offspring, it always winds up being a son.

Date: 2017-06-08 03:32 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Loki'd (Loki'd)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
If ASBARBW is any indication, Diana would have killed any male offspring she had... or ate it...

Date: 2017-06-09 01:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I was under the impression that the pair do actually end up having a son in this continuity. Wasn't Wonder Woman carrying him around in some kind of battle papoose in her one-shot?

Date: 2017-06-07 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beeyo
I was never a fan of Miller's style but the artwork in the epilouge was atrocious. There's a shot of Hal where his head is clearly not aligned with his body, and one where Wonder Woman sends a spear through a dragons head and it's facial expression is just "duh".

Date: 2017-06-07 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] beeyo
That said, the writing was great.

Date: 2017-06-07 06:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] informationgeek
Yeah, the art isn't so great, but strangely... this feels right. Like just end it here and I'm satisfied.
Edited Date: 2017-06-07 06:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-08 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
well that might be a good expression after getting a spear through the head

Date: 2017-06-08 12:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
That 'my tastes run darker' line seems cringey, but I do like the new duds. Pretty boss ending.

Date: 2017-06-08 02:39 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (bat o'lantern 2)
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
So I guess Bruce never kidnapped Carrie, forced her to live in the Cave and eat rats?

Date: 2017-06-08 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jmacq1
That reverse black/grey color scheme on Batwoman looks so sharp I'm amazed they haven't given it regular rotation as Batman's costume.

Date: 2017-06-08 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
"My tastes run darker. Dark like the corruption lining the streets of this city. Dark like the bottomless depths of the grief in my soul."

"Bat... woman.... I'm so proud..."

Date: 2017-06-09 01:26 am (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Yeah, I kind saw the whole rejuvenation thing coming, and frankly it disappoints me.

People talk a lot about the legacy of TDKR being sullied by the sequels, but I think there's a genuine disconnect between this and TDKR. TDKR was all about Miller (as a relatively young man) dealing with themes of mortality and change, but this straight up ends with what I can only call a retreat from the idea of mortality. It's coming from a much older writer whose relationship with his own mortality has almost certainly changed, and maybe there's something to dig into there, but it's a disappointing nonetheless.

Personally I'm always annoyed by stories set in the future which contrive to put Bruce Wayne back into the Batman role rather than having him pass it on. Here, Superman/Batman Generations, the Scott Snyder version of the future which we saw briefly in his Batman run all did it, and it just doesn't click for me. The whole idea of Batman, almost from inception, has been defined by the people he inspires and trains, so I've always felt that for Bruce Wayne to be a success as Batman his legacy has to be those people whom he inspired.
Edited Date: 2017-06-09 01:29 am (UTC)


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