Dark Days: The Forge #1

[superboyprime]

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[capnduckman]

Well.

That's a whole HELL of a lot of references...

[thanekos]

" .. is that really a question you want to ask me? "
" Yes. "
" Hh. Fine.. "

[shadowpsykie]

this seems like it's gonna be A HUGE event... and what I like about this is that it's seems like they are actually going for Subtle here, rather than "HUGE EVENT" it's "huge event that will affect the DCU"

also ZINDA?!?!

also again. Is Batman writing a letter to himself.

Also Also.... the four tribes, batman obviously.... one looks like a bird/eagle, sooo wonder woman? one looks like a wolf and one looks like a bear.... who could they be?

[coldfury]

Man, the continuity is such a mess these days that this raises SO MANY questions. Like... COIE happened even after New 52? How? *When?* Did Barry die and come back? It.. I...

OH DC, why do you hurt me so?

[scorntx]

-Is Batman writing a letter to himself-

Naw. That's Hawkman's journal.

[scorntx]

-COIE happened even after New 52? How?-

Back at the beginning of Rebirth, it turned out Doctor Manhattan had been futzing with the timeline. Somehow. For some reason.
So COIE did happen, just most folk don't remember it.

[cricharddavies]

Which is pretty much what Wolfman's original intention was, for the story to end with Crisis 10 and the last two issues to basically be what we got in History of the DC Universe, with no one aware that anything had ever been any different than it actually was.

[jlbarnett]

fans tell them they don't want darkness, they keep insisting that, DC finally reboots with less darkness, and then off to the side....

DCs entire editorial staff needs to be tossed

[thanekos]

That's the aesthetic, not the mood.

" .. it’s going to be fun. Even with terror and nightmares, it won’t be grim. ‘Dark Nights: Metal’ will be celebratory, huge and crazy. I’ve said it before: I am going for out-of-control dinosaurs and lasers. "

[laughing_tree]

DC puts out a bunch of good books that don't have this problem, but the big problem with their 'major event' books continues to be the way they only look inward.

The quality of Marvel events varies wildly. Some of them like Civil War 2 are awful while others like Secrete Empire has so far been very good. But they at least have relevant (in the most basic sense of that word, not necessarily in the "ripped from the headlines sense) central hooks that go beyond the pure means-nothing inside baseball of the "Find out the true nature of the Green Lanterns' power" sort.

[icon_uk]

But also people/corpses tied to the thighs of a giant statue of Batman... they're risking some serious tonal whiplash.

[beyondthefringe]

People being all "What the Hell, Bruce?" and him being all "That's what I'm trying to figure out, and I'll tell you as soon as I know" and them being "Sounds legit, call me if you need me" is a nice change of pace from "I AM BATMAN I HAVE SECRETS."

[locuatico]

To be fair, New Teen Titans's Trigon Arc was preeeeeety messed up.

Wait... Ball PlasMan... Means for Dick Grayson to stay alive...

[silverzeo]

... Oh! Lord!

Please tell this ISN'T the Dark Knight 2 Dick Grayson/Joker.... the one where he went through (off panel) experiments to become a Joker who could regenerate, dressed up in LoSH cosplay... and was ultimately killed by Bruce himself as he cut off his head and dropped it in a underground volcano, who not only did that without ANY hesitation or sign of regret; but also REPEATEDLY called Dick a mistake and failure the whole time....

It DID came out 15 years ago this month... a month after the Live Action Scooby Doo movie turned Scrappy Doo in a demonic soul sucking psycho...

Were there any "Screw You" moments to minor/sidekick DC/WB characters in August on par of those, cause so far it seem to be THAT kind of Summer.

[tigerkaya]

YESSSSS!!!! This is what I'm &@$cking talking about world building, writing from the previous narrative this is what I'm talking about!

$&@* you DC fans have it good, none of this Axis B.S. or Secret Empires nonsense
no this is what I want from my comic experience.

Re: Wait... Ball PlasMan... Means for Dick Grayson to stay alive...

[mrstatham]

No, I think the Joker addressing us in those final pages is Snyder's Joker from DOTF/Endgame, etc. You can tell from the black suit and smoothed back/undercut hair. He's one of the apparently three Jokers roaming around now.

Given the sheer amount of references, the 'means for Dick Grayson to stay alive' is the tooth Bruce knocked out of him back in Court of Owls. Ball!Plastic Man appears to be the only reference to DK2.

Re: Wait... Ball PlasMan... Means for Dick Grayson to stay alive...

[scorntx]

It is indeed the Joker of DOTF/Engame.

[icon_uk]

Not quite sure which Trigon arc you're referring to (They were all pretty messed up) or what relevance it has to this story.

[locuatico]

the original one that had literal pillars of people screaming in one page.