Kingdom Come #2

[history79]

17 pages of 52

Comments

[trooper924]

With Alan Scott as the Green Lantern here, I wonder what happened to the then-current Green Lantern Kyle Rayner in this universe. (Though from what I heard, the out-of-universe reason for his absence is that apparently Alex Ross refused to draw Kyle.)

[beyondthefringe]

Yeah. The creators didn't want to use Kyle, and Hal was out of the running because he was Parallax at the time, so Alan Scott and Jade are the only Green Lanterns.

I do wonder what happened to Guy, John, and the rest of the Corps in this future also. I don't think it's ever addressed.

[zachbeacon]

I think using Alan was the right call. Neither Guy or John were very high profile until they were used in cartoons and Fandom at the time was pretty polarized on Kyle and Hal so there was no safe choice there. Who better to represent the old gaurd than the original?

[q99]

Iirc Mark kinda wanted to use Kyle, Alex Hal, and they compromised on Alan.

[zachbeacon]

It's been 20 years and that first villain's monolog sounds way more current than I'd like.

[trooper924]

The more things change, huh?

[lizard_of_aus]

You're not kidding. A while ago, I revisited an animated short from 1996, based on a story from 1888, making a quip about authority figures blaming immigration.

[lego_joker]

My first thought was A Study in Scarlet, but then I remembered pretty much no Holmes adaptation bothers with that one (not even Brett's). So... which one is it?

[lizard_of_aus]

A stopmotion opera based on Oscar Wilde's The Happy Prince. I could give you a link, but the part in question is this verse:

"Now dying in the streets, unlawful."
"It's a swallow." "My word!
"A swallow? Oh, that's really awful
"It's an overseas bird!
"These foreign birds just come and die here.
"It's a scrounger, no doubt!"
"They're taking over, that's what I fear."
"Throw the avian out!"

[riddler13]

Want to know what's really scary? The book takes place "20 years into the future".

[bruinsfan]

I didn't notice at the time, but he's using the same name as Tex Thompson, perhaps the first blatantly patriotic-themed superhero. (He was introduced in Action Comics #1 alongside a slightly better-known Golden Age superhero...)

Though apparently Waid and Ross conceived of the character as “Captain America as if he were designed by Rob Liefeld” rather than a DC legacy character.

[riddler13]

So. Much. Geek. Trivia.

[starwolf_oakley]

An extensive look at this series by Jess Nevins suggested that Magog's line "They chose the man who would kill over the man who wouldn't... And now they're dead" was about the comic book industry itself.

Here's some of what I posted regarding Bruce Wayne in this story:
Bruce Wayne cautions about punching now and asking questions later. Bruce. Wayne.

All right, Batman *can* be cautious and use strategy and delicacy when needed. It isn't always punching criminals before disappearing into the night. WAR GAMES was Batman's plan of his Matches Malone identity taking over all the mobs of Gotham City. (I've heard that was not one of Bruce's "To Do" plans, but one of his "In case of emergency" plans.)

Bruce talking about meta-humans holding the "keys to the kingdom" brings up an interesting point about Batman: he originally planned to fight muggers and mobsters, and wound up fighting superhuman foes no fighting style could prepare him for.

Bruce and Dick didn't see eye to eye. On what? From 1984 onward, there's this idea that Bruce and Dick disagreed about something, but none of the Bat-writers can say what that *something* is.

Batman is saying Superman is being totalitarian. All right, you can say Batman is a fascist because that's the only way to fight crime and criminals don't care about Constitutional rights blah blah blah. Is fear really the only way to keep people in line, especially meta-humans?

Still, Batman' ideals seem to come down to this, "Don't break the law in Gotham City, or the scary man in the bat costume will punch you in the face." Is that really an ideal?

[coldfury]

I always saw Dick & Bruce being pretty close in views, but Dick was the glass is half full guy, who embraced his friends and family.... whereas Bruce was the cynic who isolated.

[tripodeca113]

"I've got the most marevelous anti-Superman Plan".

I see what you did there Luthor.

[captainbellman]

"F--- off. 'Mankind Liberation Front'?! We're the Liberation Front of Mankind! 'Mankind Liberation Front'. Pff. Splitters!"

[scorntx]

"But apart from saving the world, stopping alien conquerors, warlords, monsters, Giant Green Things With Teeth, rebuilding damaged cities and generally being good guys, what have superheroes done for us?"
"Brought hope?"
"Oh, "hope". SHUT UP!"

[captainbellman]

Also, good to know that Perry White (or hos hiring manager) was a misogynist even unto death.

[captainbellman]

Also also, I know Ross typically gpes for photorealism, but is anyone else amused that Bruce is now doing an extended Darth Vader cosplay?

[torberg]

Ahh...the MLF...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateral_Force


Obligatory Tom Lehrer link


Link in case the embedding didn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB7PRY1Aqds

[starwolf_oakley]

This isn't very obvious, but a few panels show that Selina's cat can see the Specter and Norman. Jess Nevin's review makes that clearer..