Date: 2018-01-25 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-"Just because you don't like the law doesn't mean you don't have to follow it."-

Which would be a stupid observation to make anyway, were it not being said by someone who's gay.
At which point it goes into screaming free-fall toward being alarmingly tone-deaf as well.
Did Fraction not know, or... what?

Also, Sunspot in a vest and sunglasses. Eeeerrrggh.
It looks so wrong. So, so wrong.

Date: 2018-01-26 12:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I don't think its stupid, especially in the context. If you are going to break the law it has to be for a more valid reason than "I don't like it". Especially if you are a minority and especially if you are fighting for civil rights.

This whole comic was about the strategizes and tactics involved in struggling for Civil Rights on a public stage. It showcased all sides of the playing field. The revolutionary leader trying to keep a cool head and make smart moves, all the while knowing every second he waits to act his own people lose faith in his dedication to the cause. An oppressive government bureaucracy trying to capitalize on the majorities worst instincts while reasuring that same majority that they are actually "very nice people". A revolutionary trying to change things from the inside, knowing her action will get her branded a traitor by the very people she is trying to help....and maybe rightfully so. The young people looking oppression right in the eye and struggling with the burning desire to "do something, anything" to fight. The true hardcore racsit who believe that they are actually the true voice of the people and the only ones willing to do "whats necessary" to preserve their way of life.

Its all here in this story and I found it to be amazing.

Date: 2018-01-25 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] agharta75
Adam X is so X-Treme.

Date: 2018-01-26 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It's odd/annoying that Adam X gets the whole 90s treatment, when his character was anything but. Shame depth for 2nd and 3rd stringers is now tabboo.

Date: 2018-01-26 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Any chance of some scans? I have literally never seen the character in any other context but X-treme.

Date: 2018-01-26 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I've no access to a scanner and no idea how to post stuff online, sorry.

But all his 90s appearances were written by Fabian N, so you know its good ;)

But since then, he's been used by writers who want a short hand to bitch about the 90s, even while every other major 90s character has been developed past that time.

Date: 2018-01-26 12:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
"But all his 90s appearances were written by Fabian N, so you know its good ;)"

I have no idea if you're being serious or not, right there. Adam X is rarely even recognized as existing for a lot of legitimate reasons. Being teased as a possible third Summers brother, having one of the oddest powers in the MU, having one of the most decidedly 90s designs in that era...if you want a character to use to mock the 90s aesthetics, he is virtually Patient Zero.

I've never read anything with him in it, so I've no idea if he's ever been a character with any substance. A good writer can easily do something with him (especially as, afaik, there isn't much that's actually been done WITH him). But while he's kind of a bro here, I don't see them taking pot-shots at him...he's just one of many characters cameoing in a group scene.

Date: 2018-01-27 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I don't see how Adam's any worse than Shatterstar ("My favorite tactic is stabbing myself!), Cable, Domino or any number of characters that were developed past their 90s-ness.

His characterization here is very much a potshot, especially with that last line. His characterization prior was not someone eager to get into a fight, but rather, someone who was very capable in one.

Date: 2018-01-26 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
The Dark X-Men team actually came really close to a regular X-Men lineup. I think everyone forgot that Mimic was one of the O6, and the X-Mens first field leader though.

Date: 2018-01-26 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
It's just not a very interesting lineup compared to the (first) Dark Avengers

Mimic and Weapon Omega are powerful but they don't contribute anything in terms of personality or team dynamics. Cloak and Dagger aren't villains or former villains. And frankly I don't care for Dark Beast

Date: 2018-01-29 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Aren't Cloak and Dagger something other than mutants, as well? I thought their powers came from some sort of non-personalized extradimensional source that could be shifted to other hosts on occasion?

Date: 2018-01-29 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
They've gone back and forth and whether they were mutants or not. After Utopia there was a oneshot where it was confirmed that they definitely weren't and they ended up leaving the X-men


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