Spider-Geddon #5

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[nyadnar17]

This is about as a humane a solution as was possible.....that still doesn't make it any less terrifying that the Spiders are capable of this.

[cyberghostface]

Last minute plot twist aside, I find the whole "No killing them no matter what" mantra from Peter to be a bit silly. There's a huge difference between going Punisher and murdering Wilson Fisk or even the Joker versus dealing with sadistic monsters that have been alive for thousands of years who could destroy entire universes if they wanted to.

[nyadnar17]

I agree and honestly the older I get the more Peter aggravates me. Seems with every passing year its less about doing the right thing and more about him not having to deal with guilt/long term responsibilities.

[cainofdreaming]

What I find irritating is holding death as some end means for stopping a villain in universes where it's just slightly above house arrest when it comes to functional incarceration.

[lordultimus]

Oh, thank God, Annie's parents survived.

Sucks that Noir's still dead, though.

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Given... recent developments, I'm not expecting that to stick.

[cainofdreaming]

Is that a Spider-Raptor? With a Fantastic Five (six?) logo on his shirt?

Shut up and take my money with an ongoing Marvel.

[long_silence]

If they don't remember anything from their past and their bodies are brand new clones then how is this really any different from just killing them?

[cainofdreaming]

How was killing their bodies any different from killing them, if the new clones will just get a copy of their memories? Copy is not the same as the original article.

[cyberghostface]

In the case of the Inheritors their soul or whatever was transferred to their new bodies. They're not clones like Ben or Kaine.

[cyberghostface]

They still have the same essence or soul or whatever.

[beyondthefringe]

Good ending.
Good plan.
I'm sure that in a few years, when someone decides to do Spiderpocalypse, the children will somehow be subverted/reverted/corrupted by Morlun or a reborn Karn or something (or maybe that Spider-Norman we saw floating around, right? Right), and we'll get another round of the Inheritors vs all of the Spider-people. They'll kill off a few fan-favorites like Spider-Ma'am and Spider-Punk, introduce a few new variants, and once again it'll come down to how do we stop them? This time, the answer will be simple: give them a transfusion of totemic power so the Inheritors -become- Spider-people themselves and, no longer hungry, will swear to atone for their sins.

We'll then get an ongoing series about the Spider-Inheritors as they try to work out being reluctantly reformed good guys seeking to protect the multiverse they once ravaged, only to struggle with temptation, and they'll ultimately face something capable of hunting them (oh, dear irony!) The series will be cancelled within 12 issues, of course, but it'll lead into a new crossover where the Spider-Inheritors and Spider-people all team up against the greater threat and so the cycle goes.

Now tell me I'm wrong. :)

[zylly]

That seems like a frighteningly accurate prediction.

[matrix_dragon]

Ah yes, mindwiping and age regression. The 'moral' solution that I find to be freaking nightmare fuel.

[silverhammerman]

The Inheritors just suck so, so bad. The Spider-Verse concept is here to stay, but good lord, the Inheritors are the absolute worst. I'll take anything else. Give me the Legion of Norman Osborns, the Infinite Doctor Octopus, The Multiversal Grim Hunt, Cosmic Shocker, Rhinos all the Way Down, World of Lizards, anything but those stupid, boring, Vampire the Masquerade LARPER looking losers.

Plus, they wrote themselves into a corner by making the Inheritors five different kinds of immortal, because it means the story can't just be about stopping them, it has to be about the ethics of the mechanics of stopping them. I think every page I've seen of this event (having admittedly only followed it on here) has been about the factions of Spider-People debating the most morally correct way of stopping them. They can't get caught in a nice explosion of fall off a cliff, because they have so many redundancies built in that you can't just have a nice clean ending. So instead you've gotta have the Spider-Mans of the multiverse stand around chatting about how how they turned their enemies into babies as though that's 1) ethically different from just killing them, and 2) not obviously going to backfire.

The worst.

[cyberghostface]

Yep. The USM cartoon (of all things) IMO handled the Spider-Verse concept better by having Norman Osborn traveling to the different worlds as a way of making himself more powerful. Also had the effect of actually focusing on the different Spider-Men as opposed to having them just be in the crowd.

I'm just surprised that Morlun's still being used after JMS left.

[beyondthefringe]

I agree. I wish we'd never see them again,. but see my above post as to the likelihood of them returning, how, why, and so on. Sigh.

Not killing your enemies is all well and good except when they're mass-murdering dimension-hopping self-cloning energy vampires who have proven they'll just keep coming back to murder you.

[zylly]

That was one of my big problems in the original event. I don’t mind if the bad guy is tough, but conduit he resources the spiders had to marshal to stop them, they were next level bullshit indestructible.

[zachbeacon]

"Ok, here's my master plan..' we turn them into babies"

[Silence]

"What? Did you forget that I'm a Silver Age villain? If I tried this in an old X-Men comic then no one would bat an eye."

[zerocaloriecola]

That's how magneto got absolved of his crimes!
except he had his memories....

[super_fly]

OMG, frigging Spider-Cop.

[crimsonmoonmist]

So Ben Reilly has been mentally reverted to his pre-resurrection self?
I can't believe I'm saying this... But that's kind of a shame given how I really felt that PAD's efforts on redeeming the character both in-universe and in general made for some pretty engaging character moments.

[cyberghostface]

Have you finished the series?

[cyberghostface]

Just noticed the Stan Lee cameo.

[silverzeo]

How DARE they make it so small an unnoticeable.

When Spider-Stan is in a room with other Spiders, he NEEDS to stands out... pitching ridiculous ideas and gadgets for everyone that really work! Also, they need to throw in a "Azul-Arachnid " in this for the sake of Steve. Stan is the man, of course, be he was never alone when doing this.