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The Justice League has assembled on the Watchtower, and they're putting their heads together to solve the mystery of the strange suicides, massive explosions, and other disparate weirdness surrounding the black and green glowing tablets that have been found at ground zero of each crazy event.


One thing I enjoy about this story is that there's no hierarchical nonsense about who should be giving orders. No chairperson. They're all equals. No second guessing, no doubt. They just do what needs to be done, without the interpersonal drama that bogs down some interpretations of the characters.


I've skipped a chunk of flashbacks to Mars' past, but I think the art conveys what's been said. This has happened before. It happened on Mars. Millions died. And now it's happening again on Earth. But why?


Ugh, just hold me. I've skipped some panels to get where we needed to be, but there's such grandeur with this team. I wish Aquaman were here, because he completes this era for me, and while it would have made sense for the time, I'm glad Plastic Man doesn't make an appearance. His addition to the team in Joe Kelly's run was fantastic ("Trial By Fire" is my second favourite JLA story, and I might get round to posting that at some point) but Eel in the hands of Warren Ellis? That might have brought out his worst tendencies for comedy-during-drama.


"I'm the President."
...I just got horrible present day shivers.
President Lex wasn't really followed through on in a satisfying way, was it? I think it's because the main architect behind the change, Jeph Loeb, was taken off the Superman books. He was the "head writer" of the Super-books around the time, and was given Superman / Batman to wrap up the President Lex strands (because Infinite Crisis was coming...). I think the creation of that book was meant as a "promotion", because Superman / Batman was an Event Book for nearly two years, but being given that little corner without it meaning anything else makes it seem less important.
Remember when Superman / Batman was the next big thing?
I think there was a pre-Bendis Superman story where they married Obama-mocking-Trump with Clark-mocking-Luthor as the impetus behind Luthor becoming President again? I think it might have been a Max Landis story, but I can't remember if it was considered canon or not. Is Lex the President again in DC continuity?
ANYWAY. Something terrible happens in Las Vegas. The Flash is sent on ahead. There's a cool transition with the Flash moving faster than a thought, so he gets there between a line of dialogue. So good. Buy! This! Book!

The team arrive, they have to figure something out, and similar to my early comment with the lack of chairperson, decisions are made and orders given-- and everything is accepted because these people are equals. And I love it.

The team are united and face down the threat humanity faces. It's awesome.
To Be Continued.


One thing I enjoy about this story is that there's no hierarchical nonsense about who should be giving orders. No chairperson. They're all equals. No second guessing, no doubt. They just do what needs to be done, without the interpersonal drama that bogs down some interpretations of the characters.


I've skipped a chunk of flashbacks to Mars' past, but I think the art conveys what's been said. This has happened before. It happened on Mars. Millions died. And now it's happening again on Earth. But why?


Ugh, just hold me. I've skipped some panels to get where we needed to be, but there's such grandeur with this team. I wish Aquaman were here, because he completes this era for me, and while it would have made sense for the time, I'm glad Plastic Man doesn't make an appearance. His addition to the team in Joe Kelly's run was fantastic ("Trial By Fire" is my second favourite JLA story, and I might get round to posting that at some point) but Eel in the hands of Warren Ellis? That might have brought out his worst tendencies for comedy-during-drama.


"I'm the President."
...I just got horrible present day shivers.
President Lex wasn't really followed through on in a satisfying way, was it? I think it's because the main architect behind the change, Jeph Loeb, was taken off the Superman books. He was the "head writer" of the Super-books around the time, and was given Superman / Batman to wrap up the President Lex strands (because Infinite Crisis was coming...). I think the creation of that book was meant as a "promotion", because Superman / Batman was an Event Book for nearly two years, but being given that little corner without it meaning anything else makes it seem less important.
Remember when Superman / Batman was the next big thing?
I think there was a pre-Bendis Superman story where they married Obama-mocking-Trump with Clark-mocking-Luthor as the impetus behind Luthor becoming President again? I think it might have been a Max Landis story, but I can't remember if it was considered canon or not. Is Lex the President again in DC continuity?
ANYWAY. Something terrible happens in Las Vegas. The Flash is sent on ahead. There's a cool transition with the Flash moving faster than a thought, so he gets there between a line of dialogue. So good. Buy! This! Book!

The team arrive, they have to figure something out, and similar to my early comment with the lack of chairperson, decisions are made and orders given-- and everything is accepted because these people are equals. And I love it.

The team are united and face down the threat humanity faces. It's awesome.
To Be Continued.
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Date: 2020-05-28 07:08 pm (UTC)Now, Young Justice Season 3 UN Chairman Luthor? That's the guy channeling Trump. Honestly I feel like maybe they went with the President Luthor storyline too early in the comics, but how could we have known how bad it would have gotten. I mean who would have guessed the guy who inspired Luthors pivot into a corrupt businessman would have actually become President?
And no, President Luthor did not get a good resolution since, as been pointed out, the end of it was Luthor climbing into a mech suit, injecting himself with kryptonite and Venom and having a fight with Superman and Batman.
It went about as well as you think it would.
Honestly I feel like the best use of the Luthor presidency plot was in JLU, where he reveals he never intended to be President, he was just doing it to piss Superman off and distract everyone while he got ready to transfer his brain into an AMAZO robot.
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Date: 2020-05-28 07:27 pm (UTC)(Jon Cryer's Maggin-esque Luthor is great, though, and Mark Russell will probably give us a Bezos!Luthor in a year or two.)
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Date: 2020-05-28 08:40 pm (UTC)The best part is in Crisis when he meets the Smallville Clark Kent. First, how he can't understand Superman giving up powers to have a normal life as a farmboy. Second how he thinks it's only this Clark Kent that's Superman and no way his Clark could be him.
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Date: 2020-05-28 10:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-29 01:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-28 08:38 pm (UTC)And yes, the JLU ep nails it much better. "Do you know how much power I'd be giving up if I had to become President?"
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Date: 2020-05-28 09:08 pm (UTC)So we thought back then, anyway.
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Date: 2020-05-29 04:58 pm (UTC)A "Greatest Superman Stories" book had an essay with a terrific point: "Luthor is like Salieri in Amadeus who recognizes the genius of Motzart and to be number one again, he must destroy Superman. The difference is, unlike Salieri, Luthor cannot accept Superman is his better which is why he fails."
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Date: 2020-05-29 07:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-28 10:05 pm (UTC)Kinda like I thought the central premise of No Man's Land was highly implausible until Katrina happened.
It is worth noting that Lex divested from his company when he became president so Trump is literally worst than a cartoon super villain.
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Date: 2020-05-29 01:22 am (UTC)Luthor is what Trump wished he was.
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Date: 2020-05-29 02:36 am (UTC)Its like how people call a certain real-world tech billionaire a "real life Tony Stark" when he's really more of a MCU Justin Hammer.
It stops working as shorthand when you bog to down with qualifiers.
And honestly I think we're living in more of a Biff Tannen presidency.
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Date: 2020-05-29 05:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-29 03:11 am (UTC)That's kind of the problem with doing Real Issues in superhero comics - for them to exist at all, the heroes have to be several magnitudes less competent than they usually are when fighting supervillains.
(Some stories, like "Must There Be A Superman?" and "Grounded", try to head this off by portraying the heroes' restraint/inaction as a virtue in itself, but circa 2020 that doesn't really look acceptable anymore.)
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Date: 2020-05-29 04:30 am (UTC)I dubbed them "Super FEMA" at the time.
God Battle for Bludhaven was awful. Its like DC looked at Civil War and was like "You think that's the dumbest most hamfisted super heroes as political allegory out there? Hold my beer."
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Date: 2020-05-29 02:36 pm (UTC)(Also, "Force of July" is a fantastic name and I love it.)
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Date: 2020-05-29 05:03 pm (UTC)I do remember Kurt Busiek lampshading that in "Astro City" where Samaritan and Winged Victory are on their first date, she mentions a baddie called Golden Boy who preys on women and he muses on how each hero "sort of has guys we all think of as their villain. Shouldn't it be we all go after the same guys?"
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Date: 2020-05-29 05:46 pm (UTC)Even putting aside the people who can fly and throw cars, most superhero universes have people with access to crazy tech and knowledge but yet the lives of the average citizen is unchanged.
(Maybe its because the Four from Planetary are a-holes. Maybe you swapped out Steve Jobs for Tony Stark and people have slightly better phones. Maybe the energy companies are paying Reed Richards NOT to move forward with his alternative energy plans)
Unless the person involved is a superhero, I can't apply superhero logic to their actions in most superhero stories. I have to pretend they would act as they would in the real world.
In 1999 I naively believed that the US government wouldn't abandon one of its major cities after a natural disaster. In 2020 I know better.
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Date: 2020-05-29 07:55 pm (UTC)Oh I remember how for six years fans slammed NML as so horrible and terrible and "right, a major city and urban center left to rot like that and the rest of the nation barely caring."
Then Katrina hit New Orleans.....
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Date: 2020-05-29 09:12 am (UTC)Our current president is more like... I don't know, maybe Doctor Arthur Light? Not only in over his head, but also wildly delusional about his leadership abilities and general competence. I'd say the Penguin, except that (1) the Penguin's a better businessman and (2) he's clinging to notions of class that Trump's mostly abandoned to serve as an anger translator. (Though I suppose it's a toss-up whether it's worse to want to date your daughter or to date an actual penguin.)
Luthor would never have fumbled the COVID-19 response this badly, that's for sure. He'd probably use it to consolidate his power, and that would be a problem, but on the surface his policies would look a lot more like Mongolia's.
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Date: 2020-05-29 02:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-30 06:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2020-05-31 11:53 am (UTC)It's just that even pretendingnormal human empathy is beyond Trump's capabilities.
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Date: 2020-05-28 09:51 pm (UTC)Unrelated to this story, I love the scene in Devin Grayson's Titans run where the "kids" can't agree on who the leader of the Morrison-Era JLA is (or if there is one).
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Date: 2020-05-28 10:10 pm (UTC)You are not my president. And you are utterly without any intrinsic importance to me."-
... I don't think I've ever had a greater fondness for J'onn than reading that.
And I like J'onn anyhow.
Could Cyborg say that? Maybe Wonder Woman or Aquaman in Dumb Surface Dwellers Mode would, but not so bluntly in tones of "couldn't give less of a damn".
(well, okay, Aquaman might say it that bluntly, come to think of it.)
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Date: 2020-05-28 10:22 pm (UTC)J'onn doesn't care. He doesn't have roots in the US. He changes identities like most people change socks. If he suddenly finds himself unwelcome in North America. ..well, South America appreciates him more anyway.
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Date: 2020-05-28 11:14 pm (UTC)Or even basic courtesy.
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Date: 2020-05-29 04:02 pm (UTC)What's great about J'onn's snark is that he phrases it extremely precisely, because he actually does care about courtesy and about treating everyone as a person. He's dissing you for your own good, so it's important that you understand the diss as clearly as possible. He's kind of an attack philosopher in that way.
Same energy in the Morrison JLA #6 issue, when the angels invade. "See this, hear this: we will not do as we are instructed."