Date: 2020-12-16 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Hal Jordan. "Should I hook up with my girlfriend's alternate-earth counterpart? Should I hook up with my alternate-earth counterpart? Should I hook up with someone who looks exactly like my girlfriend but thinks exactly like me?"

[insert all URLs for memes titled "YES" here]
Edited Date: 2020-12-16 04:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-12-16 05:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
If anyone in the Justice League is likely to sleep with their Rule 63 counterpart, it's Hal Jordan.

Booster Gold is a runner up, though.

Date: 2020-12-16 09:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I suspect Booster has probably done that already...

Date: 2020-12-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Before or after rule 63 Beetle?

Date: 2020-12-17 05:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deathcrist2000
Yes.

Date: 2020-12-16 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Who would be the most likely to do so in the MU though?

Tony Stark or Matt Murdoch?

Date: 2020-12-16 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] akodo_aoshi
She-Hulk probably already did or was it her AU counterpart...
Tony Stark is a decent contender.
Gambit and Logan from the X-men are their representatives in this.

Date: 2020-12-16 05:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
*Madrox quietly whistles in the corner table.*

Date: 2020-12-16 05:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
100% for both.

Martha Murdock would brood for a while, wax lyrically about the sound of Matt's heartbeat, relive the tragic deaths of Oedipus Natchios and Ken Page, bang Matt in a moment of emotional weakness, and feel guilty about it after.

Tony and Tori would just fuck.

Date: 2020-12-18 07:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Nah, he hates himself too much for that.

Date: 2020-12-18 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Yep, I also see that being a problem with Daredevil.

The Human Torch OTOH...

Date: 2020-12-23 04:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] strejdaking
Totally.

Date: 2020-12-18 10:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Tony Stark should absolutely go fuck himself.

Date: 2020-12-19 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Saturnyne. Absolutely Saturnyne.

And Loki, probably.

Date: 2020-12-16 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] themajesticmoose

Yet another reason why Marguerite Bennett is a better writer than Grant Morrison. When she was given the job of writing about a world where all the heroes are women she gave us awesome and queer stories about lesbian and bisexual women in relationships with women. which are the kind of stories that it's actually fun and interesting and enjoyable to read and the kind of stories I actually care about reading

When Morrison writes a planet of superhero women they give us tedious worthless heterosexual crap like this with the Earth 11 Star Sapphire just being some boring straight woman flirting with a pathetic loser like Hal Jordan of all people

Edited Date: 2020-12-16 04:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-12-17 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Not that this should make you like it any more, but Earth-11 was created by Loeb and McGuinness, and it’s never been an all-female world or a world with all-female heroes. It’s just a gender-swapped world where women are privileged in the same way men are privileged on Earth-0 (and in reality). So yeah, it’s still pretty heteronormative and there’s still a lot of gender-role BS going on; it’s just matriarchal BS instead of patriarchal BS.

Arguably these last two issues have been about the failures and dark sides of heteronormative relationships. They don't work for Hal and Carol on either Earth, they don't work for the Hyperfamily. Going back further in the current series, we've seen that Hal's most successful relationships with female-coded beings are with his ring AI--who's literally a slave to his will--and with Trilla Tru, who so far seems totally unattracted to humans. That tells you something about him.

The DC Bombshells ‘verse doesn’t yet have a place in the core 52, I don’t think, although I’d love to see it there. The queerest community in the local multiverse right now--certainly the queerest community that Morrison's writing about--is probably the Amazons on Earth-1.

Date: 2020-12-17 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] themajesticmoose
The only thing that's just as bad or worse than a world where heterosexual men are the ones in power...a world where it's just heterosexual women in power

Yeah it's safe to say that I would not have any interest in visiting Earth-11 if I was doing any Multiverse-hopping in the DC universe

I've only read the first volume of Wonder Woman Earth One but what I saw of the Amazons there (An island of kinky lesbians who are into bondage and fantastical science) makes me think that I'd enjoy living there very much so unless anything happens in volume two or three to ruin that, that gets a thumbs up from me

Date: 2020-12-19 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
I liked Volume Two much more than Volume One, personally; it went all-in on Amazon culture. Many SD folks were creeped out by the mind control elements, but I just consider them analogous to capital punishment and life imprisonment in Man's World. I won't spoil it for you, though.

I like to think there's lots of queer shenanigans on Earth-47, but it's been 30 years at this point and we still don't know how the Love Syndicate spends its time....

Date: 2020-12-19 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] themajesticmoose
Which earth was Earth 47?

Date: 2020-12-21 05:22 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Your mileage may vary, I found this pretty funny. (though I have always viewed Hal Jordan as a pretty ludicrous character)

Also, why would most heroes being women lead to most of them being lesbian or bisexual? Its not the case when the reverse is true, and IIRC women are actually a bit less likely to identify as gay or bisexual than men. (that is, they are less likely to identify as gay/lesbian/homosexual, morelikely to identify as bisexual, but both taken together are still less than gay+bisexual men)

Date: 2020-12-21 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] themajesticmoose
It doesn't matter to me how likely or unlikely it is, it's simply that I don't remotely care about or have any interest in m/f relationships either in fiction or in real life so I want more stories where all of the women are canonically queer because that's actually interesting and fun for me to read about while m/f romance is about as interesting to me as paint drying on a wall.

There doesn't need to be a reason for making every woman in a story queer beyond the the fact that it's the kind of story that we, as queer women, want to read about.

And no, women are not "Less likely to identify as gay or bisexual than men" and even if that were true again I don't remotely care about how realistic it is or is not, all I care about is getting the kind of representation I personally want to see

Date: 2020-12-21 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Ah, so you were just using the pluralis majestatis?

Date: 2020-12-18 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
There's something about Hal Jordan being the stand-in for all men that make me want to welcome our new female overlords (overladies?)

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