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A subject that has been brought to the Mod Team's attention lately is the use and impact of the "Ban User" blocking function, and we have been discussing how we wish to address it within Scans_Daily.

Let us state, first and foremost, that your privacy and security should always be paramount. No member should ever take action which might, in any way, make then feel unsafe.

The "Ban User" functionality on Dreamwidth is very straightforward, hovering over a users avatar will show "Ban User" as an option. This is not a group dependent function, it's automatically available to anyone with a DreamWidth account.

We, as a Mod Team, will never use "Ban User" on a member (Our ultimate sanction for members is temporary suspension/permanent expulsion from the Scans_Daily community as part of the Disciplinary process, but "Ban User" is not part of that process).

In turn, members are not expected to use "Ban User" on a Mod, as we have a requirement to be able to reply to any and threads and posts if/when the need arises.

As and when Mod's change, the same will be true for any new Mod coming on.

If you have concerns over a particular Mod, then they can be raised with the Mod Team for discussion, we're not a monolithic entity and will seek to address any concerns fairly and equitably.

Please note that Mods cannot undo someone's "Ban User" choices, that is linked to your own account, not the Scans_Daily account.

However, something to bear in mind is that "Ban User" is VERY powerful.

If you have used "Ban User" on someone then they not only cannot reply to you directly, but they cannot reply to anyone's comments on any post you are the creator of.

Thus if you reply on a post, then someone on your "Ban User" list cannot reply to you, and if you have made a post, someone who is on your "Ban User" list cannot interact with any comments on that post.

So, whilst who you choose to block is your own affair, we would ask that it be kept to a minimum amongst scans_daily members wherever possible. Blocking prevents conversation and the general flow of discussion, which is a large part of our raison d'etre, and can also cause stress to the person who finds that they cannot comment, especially if the person you have blocked is unaware that you have done so, or the reasons you might have done so.

If members have concerns on this topic please feel free to raise them here, or contact the Mods via our usual contact of scansdailymod[at]gmail[dot]com . We can't promise we'll know all the answers immediately, but we'll do our best to address them.

Thank you

The Scans_Daily Mod Team
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Date: 2021-07-14 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
No disrespect intended, but if somebody dislikes you enough to block you, then presumably that person would not be happy about getting a bunch of your comments in their inbox as a result of you interacting with their posts. Thus, presumably, that person might be inclined to simply decide that it's not worth it, and not post anything.

Yes, that would be a desirable outcome on my part. Thank you for articulating my wish, probably better than I could.

As to your other comment, when the creator of the narrative that I strongly dislike is spitting in the face of this community's supposed "anti-racist ... woman-friendly and otherwise discrimination and harassment free" atmosphere, and you're all letting them do it, I'm not all that motivated to help the rest of you.
Edited Date: 2021-07-14 11:05 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 02:37 am (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
You do you, person I've never seen here before.

Me, even if I personally dislike someone, I still very much don't want them to stop posting. Scans_Daily is the one (1) Community I'm left with after LiveJournal went the way of the dodo and every other social media embraced the streaming and hate-click models. You ever tried to have a multi-person discussion on Twitter? On Instagram? On Facebook? On Tumblr? Would. Not. Recommend. And Scans_Daily lives or dies depending on the post flow. So a reduction in flow because I literally annoyed someone out of contributing to it is most definitely not a desirable outcome on my part.

Also I was referring to "changing the narrative" as in offering alternate character interpretations or highlighting a writer's strengths and weaknesses, not fighting with the other poster. If they are being a bigoted bully, dealing with them is the mods' job, not mine. And frankly I'm calling bull at your implication that they haven't been doing their job or that you could do any better.

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Date: 2021-07-15 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Sorry to hear about your you-problems, but as I have plenty of other places I can go, the loss of certain sacks of shit who post here wouldn't bother me a bit.

If they are being a bigoted bully, dealing with them is the mods' job, not mine. And frankly I'm calling bull at your implication that they haven't been doing their job

And yet cyberghostface goes right on posting here.

or that you could do any better.

Don't recall implying that, not responsible for your inferences.

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Date: 2021-07-15 03:07 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
You want to give me an example of being a bigoted bully, go ahead (and yes I temporarily unblocked you just now). Just because you’ve been the one harassing me and making stuff up about me even though I tried to call a truce.
Edited Date: 2021-07-15 03:09 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/5536239.html#comments

You have made your bigotry against Muslims very clear through your support of Miller's 300 and Holy Terror, and your obvious misogyny is also readily apparent. If you are, as has been implied elsewhere, a woman, then you are one of those types who writes love letters to serial killers, putting you in the same exalted company as Ayn Rand which I'm sure makes you very happy, and you doubtless watched the scenes of [i]Daredevil[/i] and [i]Jessica Jones[/i] featuring the only characters you found interesting -- the rapist and the murderous gangster -- with one hand very busy.

You are a plague on this board.
Edited Date: 2021-07-15 03:44 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 03:52 am (UTC)
sara: "One or two of them are trying to start a new society, but it's not working." (start a new society)
From: [personal profile] sara
I know neither of you but this kind of ad hominem crap isn't a reasonable way to speak to other people and you should knock it off.

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Date: 2021-07-15 03:58 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Yeah my obvious misogyny is… what? Finding the villains interesting? I always find the villains interesting. This is up there with you accusing Bendis of wanting to rape women because he wrote a fictional rapist. (It’s very telling though that you think the only reason one can like a character or an actor’s performance is sexual gratification.)

And yeah I stand by my views that religion is not above criticism regardless of which one.

Edit: And now he’s going to my other posts to troll. That’s what you get for giving someone a chance. Blocked again.
Edited Date: 2021-07-15 04:08 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
In response to the post you didn't let me respond to:

I always find the villains interesting.

You find the villains interesting as long as they're men who hurt women. The female villains you pour boundless contempt on.

And wanting to engage in genocide is not criticism.

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:29 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
I unblocked you and within minutes you went and tried to harass me in an unrelated topic like a child. I was going to give you the window of a few days but you couldn’t help yourself.

I’ve never condoned any form of genocide. You are lying as you always do.

You are also lying about my interest in villains. They run the entire gamut from Magneto to Leatherface (and no liking Leatherface doesn’t mean I want to eat people). As for my issues regarding female villains, you are once again being a liar. I think I’ve called out characters like Mystique for being awful and treated like heroes after but I’ve said the same thing about Daken and Punisher.

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
And again:

I unblocked you and within minutes you went and tried to harass me in an unrelated topic like a child.

I was expressing my genuine opinion that I feel disgusted to have enjoyed the same thing as you. If you view my self-disgust as harassment, that's a you problem.

Given that you defended Hannibal as well as admitting to liking Leatherface, I'd say the odds of you fantasizing about eating people are pretty high. Also, these are my sincere and genuine thoughts. If they are mistaken, that's life. But they are not falsehoods. I am not lying.

And now you are replying to me while preventing me from replying to you. How mature.

Before you say that I can easily stop you from replying -- I don't censor people. That's one more way that I'm not a fascist, like yourself.
Edited Date: 2021-07-15 04:42 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:50 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Given that you defended Hannibal as well as admitting to liking Leatherface, I'd say the odds of you fantasizing about eating people are pretty high.

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Wow, that sure showed me who's boss.

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
Blocking somebody on dreamwidth does not make one a fascist. Not is it censorship, really.

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
You're right, that's not fascist. Speaking approvingly of the extrajudicial execution of 'terrorists', on the other hand ... https://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/9206003.html?thread=212917491#cmt212917491

And yes it is censorship, we're just going to have to disagree on that.

Edited Date: 2021-07-15 05:40 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
You’re not going to change anyone’s mind here about cyberghostface in this thread, surely you must know that by now. And they’re the poster that I have a mutual blocking relationship with

And as your own behavior has amply demonstrated on this thread, the block function doesn’t control what you can and can’t say, it just changes where you can say it. It is establishing personal space

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Date: 2021-07-15 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
I don't care about changing peoplle's minds. Change must come from within. I will speak the truth as I know it, until they take that freedom away from me as they have taken so many others.

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Date: 2021-07-15 03:11 am (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
Cyberghostface? You are accusing Cyberghostface, one of the nicest and most polite members who has never broken a rule in 15 years, of being a bigoted sack of shit so horrible you'd rather see the whole Community go down than letting her continue to post?

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay.

You know what, I don't think we can ever understand each other, so I'm backing off. Addio.

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Date: 2021-07-15 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
Yeah, sooooo polite.

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:08 am (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
Dude, you had to go back six years to find some comments of hers that might possibly be interpreted as bad. And you have been relentlessly throwing ad hominem at her even in completely unrelated posts, as well as lying and gaslighting, and framing her desire to get away from you as being a fascist.

Please never reply to me again, because I find you genuinely upsetting.

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
I don’t have any vested interest in starting another snipefest, but your impression of Cyberghostface is not, I believe, a universal one.

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:27 am (UTC)
janegray: (Default)
From: [personal profile] janegray
Fair.

Generally I have a very favourable view of Cyberghostface because they are the only one who thought of reaching out with kindness to History79 and talk with them in DM, instead of shit talking them over differences of opinion in amount and priority of posts.

Plus, in the old days of pre-Under The Red Hood, when bashing my comfort character Jason Todd was a popular past time and I couldn't check a single post about him without seeing scores of people talking wistfully about his painful death and bragging about voting yes on the phone poll and victim blaming the literal 14-year-old for being sold out by his mother, I appreciated that Cyberghostface was always defending him.
Edited Date: 2021-07-15 05:35 am (UTC)

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Date: 2021-07-15 05:36 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
IIRC that user blocked me because he disagreed with me over Ray Fisher’s complaints about Joss Whedon and Warner Bros. (I supported Fisher, he thought Fisher was misrepresenting the situation).

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