NS: Spider-Man: No Way Home discussion

[cyberghostface]

So this little film came out today. Anyone see it yet? Some spoilery thoughts.

It would be a bigger surprise if they weren’t in it but nevertheless… Tobey and Andrew are back. They’re both fun to watch and they have great chemistry with Tom. Tobey’s the definitive Peter Parker in my eyes and while I thought the TASM films were a misfire it was nice to see Andrew again as the film gives his version of the character some closure.

The villains… well, Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina were the only ones given much to do (Dafoe was clearly having a lot of fun). Jamie Foxx might as well not even be the same character in TASM2. Lizard and Sandman were both CGI throughout; the latter briefly used archive footage of Thomas Haden Church from Spider-Man 3 so I don’t think Church was even involved here.

It’s generally a lot of a fanservice but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

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[tinygaylaura]

Some thoughts

- Dafoe, Molina, Foxx and Ifans killed it in their return appearances here. It was a blast seeing them all reprising the parts and giving us the closest we're ever likely to get to a Spidey vs Sinister Six movie

- It was great to see Ned and MJ get more screen time and honestly losing Zendaya's MJ feels like a huge blow to me. I've loved the adorable weird girl energy she's brought to the role and her and Holland were really sweet together here.

- Tom Holland was amazing, perhaps even spectacular as Spider-Man here. It was great to have a Spider-Man film that felt more like a Spider-Man film and not "Iron Man's sidekick Peter Parker"

- Marissa Tomei was great as Aunt May and like Zendaya as MJ it was both great to see more of her and also feels like a real shame we won't see her in the role again. Also I really loved that when she thought she walked in on Peter and MJ hooking up her only reaction was "Make sure to practice safe sex" like I really didn't expect such a cool sex positive message in a Disney Studios movie but yay

- Dr Strange's scenes were both hilarious and at the end very moving. Maybe Cumberbatch really can act?

- I am a little sad that Venom was just a cameo but I can understand why they went that route. The movie had a LOT to juggle as it was. And the cameo was very funny

- "I'm something of a scientist myself"

I cracked up at that line and so did everyone else in the theatre

- The Lizard being like "Have you got time to hear the good word about BEING TURNED INTO A DINOSAUR MAN" was great. Ifans should play Sauron if we ever get him in the MCU

- Jonah was one of the few negatives I'm going to complain about in this film. I know Jonah has always been kind of a gruff deluded asshole when it comes to Spidey but here it felt like he really crossed the line from irresponsible to downright villainous. And I kind of prefer Jonah as a jerk with a heart of gold and not a jerk with the heart of a jerk

- Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield were fantastic in their roles. I actually heard people in the movie theatre letting out gasps of joy and excitedly going "Oh my god" when they appeared.

- I think they missed a chance by not expanding on the Garfield and Maguire universes by having them reference things that happened after their respective franchises ended. Would have been cool to have references to heroes and villains beyond what we got to see as a nod to how while the films may have ended the story continues

[bravest_spinja]

I really didn't expect such a cool sex positive message in a Disney Studios movie but yay

It should be said, technically it's Sony. (Though I have a theory, Marvel's more...ascetic nature is because Kevin Feige's job used to be like, retrieving Bryan Singer's mail or getting him out of bed to the set and so I think there are parts of his brain that have been severely bleached.)

I don't think this is necessarily the last we'll see of MJ here, but just in case Zendaya and Tom break up again, or she ends up busy winning an Oscar or something, they officially don't have to explain where she went.

[tinygaylaura]

Are Zendaya and Tom Holland dating IRL?

That would explain why they have such cute energy in this film

They feel like that couple who I'd alternate between going "You two are so sweet you are giving me diabetes stop that" and wanting a threesome with