Date: 2022-06-18 02:40 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I was kind of intrigued by this title at first because I thought the premise would be, like, What If Miles inherited the legacy of these different heroes instead of Spider-Man, but these scans make these issues look like “What If Miles Morales was literally just XYZ?”. Does Loki at least get a Prowler suit?

Yikes

Date: 2022-06-18 02:42 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Not to worry.

The author has assured himself that Screenrant liked it, and that is why everybody with a nuanced take on the subject is wrong

https://twitter.com/ymercado/status/1538012794116661248

Re: Yikes

Date: 2022-06-18 03:01 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Okay, wow, I thought I was just racist myself for being uncomfortable with these scans so I told myself to shut up because I didn’t know the author, but yikes indeed.
Edited Date: 2022-06-18 05:55 pm (UTC)

Re: Yikes

Date: 2022-06-22 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
I feel you'd be the opposite of racist for being uncomfortable with this.

Re: Yikes

Date: 2022-06-18 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
I was about to say "how dumb is that?"

Then saw the author double downed with an article on the "social media backlash."

https://screenrant.com/miles-morales-thor-variant-social-media-backlash-marvel/

Re: Yikes

Date: 2022-06-20 12:38 am (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
So many quote tweets.

Sure, the first dozen or so I read boiled down to "can you believe this guy?" but but I assume the remaining 100s were very complementary.

Jeez..

Date: 2022-06-18 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] steverodgers5
Dear God..This is nigh on offensively bad. The mind boggles at who actually thought this would be a good idea.

Re: Jeez..

Date: 2022-06-18 07:05 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Akira Yoshida, presumably?

Date: 2022-06-18 04:39 pm (UTC)
shakalooloo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
How is this Miles? He's Thor, that's Loki... Seems more like Party Thor from the What If? cartoon. Other than the cosmetic differences, what makes this character Miles Morales?

Date: 2022-06-19 12:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
I think the issue is that Miles isn’t really that defined of a character to make something like this work.

You're not wrong. Phil Lord, Chris Miller, and Shameik Moore did a lot of heavy lifting to make Miles work in Spider-Verse.

Date: 2022-06-18 04:49 pm (UTC)
informationgeek: (lyra)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
My god that hammer. Just... just look at it.

So many thoughts, sooooooo many thoughts looking at this.

Date: 2022-06-18 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
this is really more of a "what if Thor was Black?" than anything to do with Miles. A lot of wasted potentials.

Date: 2022-06-18 07:04 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
That's what happens when the writer sees "black" as a character trait, or THE character trait

Date: 2022-06-19 09:13 am (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Anyone else remember that one scene in his ANAD book where Miles says he doesn’t want to be seen as just the black Spider-Man? I know that was written by a white dude, but still.

Date: 2022-06-18 10:09 pm (UTC)
numeronone: (Default)
From: [personal profile] numeronone
For everyone's reference, here is a photo of the writer of this comic, Yehudi Mercado.

Date: 2022-06-23 11:54 pm (UTC)
lissa_quon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lissa_quon
Not to sound like an ass but - what is that name? Where is that from?

Date: 2022-06-24 07:45 am (UTC)
numeronone: (Default)
From: [personal profile] numeronone
Jewish first name, Mexican last name. My point is he's definitively not black, though you could tell that from the above pages.

Date: 2022-06-18 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I thought this was going to be "What if Miles found Thor's hammer the way Dr Donald Blake did in the 60's" which would have perhaps been an even more extreme take on Dani Moonstar becoming a Norse Valkyrie, but could have been interesting.

This is... not that.

Date: 2022-06-20 08:31 am (UTC)
numeronone: (Default)
From: [personal profile] numeronone
The weirdest part is, if you were familiar with Thunderstrike and you saw this cover you'd assume that's what this is - an all-new reality where Miles took on that identity.

Date: 2022-06-18 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
This is like a parody of "white guy trying to write what he thinks black people talk like."

Date: 2022-06-18 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Oh, only just realised that that's meant to be a rhyming poem (or *shudder* rap...) at the beginning! Rhyming universe with: verse.

....

Okay, then.

Date: 2022-06-19 12:18 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Trying to rhyme "sure" with "Thor" feels physically painful.

Date: 2022-06-19 04:25 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I think low-key works better as a pun than it does as a rhyme.

Date: 2022-06-19 12:30 am (UTC)
b_i_beast: (Default)
From: [personal profile] b_i_beast
Enters

Sees this.

Leaves

Date: 2022-06-19 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blueprintstyles
I'm rereading Brian Azzarello's CAGE. His Marvel Max series about Luke Cage. It is chock full of slang and uses the N-word or an equivalency more than once. I have complex feelings about that, but I can tell a lot more effort was put into CAGE to sound genuine and make the environment seem lived in and natural.

Date: 2022-06-19 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leahandillyana
That's an odd Thor story, not a Miles story :(

Date: 2022-06-19 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] super_fly
Every new page I see of this is worse than the last

Dialogue: "By Odin's fade!"
Odin: https://twitter.com/glssmrkt/status/1538453318556651525

Date: 2022-06-20 12:48 am (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
So how did this get published? What famous director is the writer related to?

Date: 2022-06-20 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Does...does this make ANY sense? So...he's Thor...but because he's BLACK, everything is different?

Date: 2022-06-20 07:15 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: Gavla from BIONICLE. For when I’m feeling argumentative, confrontational or altogether serious. (Gavla)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Like how many years ago are we talking? Pre- or post-colonisation? How long have people been writing eddas in rap form considering New York ghettos and hoods (and everything that spawned from them) as we know them have only been around for the past 100-ish years or so? Were the gods around for the Lenape or anyone who came before them?

Date: 2022-06-21 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
It makes no sense. It's the World Tree. For a realm to exist, it must connect to it. So, what the writer is insinuating is that the animals that lived nearby never would have become gods. When the people crossed the frozen ocean into America, they never became gods? When the English arrived on the shores they didn't become gods?

Date: 2022-06-21 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
Sad thing is, I can't tell if that's a joke or not.

Date: 2022-06-21 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
My god...it's even MORE repulsive and nonsensical than I thought! How did it grow in Brooklyn?! It's the World Tree! It should have been there since Midgard's creation! There shouldn't BE a Brooklyn! The Indigenous people would be the gods! When the would be colonialists showed up, they would have been obliterated with their silly flintlock pistols and cannons.

And the appearance of the streets...shoes hanging from powerlines? Spraypaint? Does the writer think the current "culture" of black people is a result of their own actions instead of a response to the world around them? That this is the natural progression of African Americans?

Date: 2022-06-22 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
Update: Mercado has "apologized for inauthentic writing" and paying money to some NYC charities.

https://www.cbr.com/miles-morales-what-if-writer-apologizes-inauthentic-writing-donates-pay-charity/

Date: 2022-06-24 07:48 am (UTC)
numeronone: (Default)
From: [personal profile] numeronone
He has yet to apologise for this, though:

Edited Date: 2022-06-24 07:57 am (UTC)

If Miles was Thor...

Date: 2022-07-03 11:55 pm (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
...then I suppose he'd be lame, but in a different way than he is in 616.

Date: 2022-07-04 12:01 am (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
His rhymes took a dump
like Donald J Trump.

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