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This is from X-Force #25, by Craig Kyle, Christopher Yost, and Clayton Crain.





For those who don't know, Wolverine's referencing how he gutted Rachel Summers to stop her from killing Selene. Yeah.


title: x-force, creator: chris yost, publisher: marvel comics,creator: craig kyle, creator: clayton crain,

Date: 2010-04-01 03:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
I remember that moment, James. I remember when Rachel was going to kill her and you were all "X-men don't kill" and she was all "she's a mass murdering vampire, I think it's okay," and then you stabbed her. And she would've died if it wasn't for Spiral. You giant hypocrite.

Date: 2010-04-01 03:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
I think Logan lost the moral high ground on the "X-Men don't kill" when he agreed to join Cyke's stabby-squad.

Date: 2010-04-01 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] colonel_green
He left that ground quite a while before that (most of the X-Men have killed by this point, anyway).

Date: 2010-04-01 03:49 am (UTC)
suzene: (Default)
From: [personal profile] suzene
Point.

Date: 2010-04-01 04:00 am (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
EXACTLY! He tried to stop Rachel from murdering by murdering her. Because X-men don't kill.


Logic fail.

Date: 2010-04-01 04:04 am (UTC)
colonel_green: (Default)
From: [personal profile] colonel_green
Wolverine is known for his mastery of logic.

Date: 2010-04-01 06:53 pm (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
And Pancakes!

Date: 2010-04-02 02:48 am (UTC)
lamashtar: "Wolverine does not appear in this issue" (Wolverine not appearing in this issue)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
And tact and diplomacy!

Date: 2010-04-02 03:12 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
And Pancakes!

Date: 2010-04-01 09:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
To be fair, he tried to stop Rachel murdering Selene not because it was Selene, but because of the risks it posed to Rachel. She was already in a slightly fragile state about killing due to her own past as a Hound, and because if someone with the Phoenix Force inside them starts thinking killing is a good idea, then Dark Phoenix is probably only a heartbeat away.

Date: 2010-04-01 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
Motto. There used to be a time...now long past, I guess, when the X-men had the Moral High Ground. You know, when Magneto was a mass-murdering terrorist who had lost his own objectivity and couldn't see the Irony of his own actions.

Wolverine was the original anti-hero who kills. He just used to do it off-panel in the 1970s. He wasn't protecting Selene, he was protecting Rachel. Plus, you know...Selene has been killed before, iirc. She's one of those mystical Claremont villains who never really stays dead.

Date: 2010-04-01 06:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] colonel_green
On the "moral high ground" issue, I don't know that anything they've been doing lately losing them that - Magneto (at his worst) was all about oppressing humans, which the X-Men opposed. X-Force, despite the bad buzz it gets, has killed....mass-murderers, all of whom were in the process of planning and executing new genocidal actions against mutants; there wasn't the slightest bit of ambiguity about any of them.

Date: 2010-04-01 04:29 am (UTC)
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Claremontian Logic at it's finest?

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