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I posted these Images because a couple of people have been wondering "what Idie was thinking" when she went in to fight the Hellfire Club. What her motivations were. Also someone only saw the one panel that showed Idie saying "Is there anyone else i need to kill" and thought she was now a sociopath. admittedly without context that is what that panel makes her look like. so because of that I posted some context and the rest of that page the panel is from.

It miiight be pushing the page limit... so please let me know and i will adjust accordingly... its about two pages and a couple of panels...


Date: 2011-08-18 02:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] proteus_lives
Seems almost like some serious PTSD.

Date: 2011-08-18 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
With a serious helping of self-loathing at that.

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It resounds.....

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Re: It resounds.....

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Date: 2011-08-18 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amancalledblaze
Wow

and I'm curious, who's the girl in the pink with the Apocolyspe looking facial markings?

Date: 2011-08-18 02:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
Laurie Trommette, aka Transonic. Superspeed flight and related shapeshifting.

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Date: 2011-08-18 02:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aaron_bourque
. . .

So this whole Schism conflict could be averted if Wolverine were actually in multiple places at one time?

. . . hmm . . .

Aaron "The Mad Whitaker" Bourque; also someone needs to seriously sit that girl down and explain to her that she is not a murderer.

Date: 2011-08-18 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I doubt Wolverine being at the museum would have made a difference. The Hellfire Club had weapons to take down Emma, Magneto, Namor, Colossus and Iceman. I have no doubt they would have had something to take down Wolverine as well. The only reason they didn't get Idie was because she ran and hid until the leaders left.

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Date: 2011-08-18 03:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Also someone only saw the one panel that showed Idie saying "Is there anyone else i need to kill" and thought she was now a sociopath.

That was me. I said it seemed Idie had gone "from zero to sociopath" after quoting "Broken Arrow." It does not seem like she's deciding "Maybe murder isn't that big a deal after all."

Date: 2011-08-18 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] vitruvian23
"It does not seem like she's deciding "Maybe murder isn't that big a deal after all.""

You're right, it does not seem like that. And it wasn't murder, despite Idie calling it that. But then, she believes she's a monster for being born the way she is, so she really doesn't give herself a break over anything.

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Date: 2011-08-18 03:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
Schism has been really surprisingly and consitently good so far. I wonder what other miracles Jason Aaron and his amazing magical beard can perform, getting me to care about X-Men is quite the feat.

Date: 2011-08-18 03:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rallamajoop
I do like how they handled this sequence - it's very effective and believable. But what bugs me is that while all this is going on, we've still got Hope, who grew up on the run in the wastelands leftover after virtually the entire population of a possible future Earth were murdered by someone trying to get to her. Who was raised by Cable - who, granted, does seem to have made a concentrated effort not to raise her to be a killer, but who still practically embodies the 'end justifies the means' mentality. By all logic, Hope should have ended up paranoid as hell and still be suffering massive culture shock now she's finally made it back to somewhere 'peaceful'. And through all this they're still teasing us with the apparently real possibility she's going to go axe crazy and justify everything Bishop was trying to do.

And it's a member of her supporting cast who gets this scene. It just seems like such a waste.

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Date: 2011-08-18 04:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hawkmoondirge
if this launches schism, I have to say...well at first i found it extremely weaksauce but then in review its actually great. Its not a matter of person taste of hate that divides the X-men, its their role that does. Cyclops wants to restore the species and keep them safe. At any cost, Wolverine, while the same, wants to spare the children, and that, among other things, divides them. i doubt the hate will last, and they'll reunite but its interesting to see how the ideological differences will play out

As for this scene, i still see this as the wrong character to use, she was already self loathing, no need to spike that up a few notches. Still, the emotion, and semi acceptance make the scene. AShe, in her mind, believes she's a monster and she then believes that is her role, to fight those worse than her.

Date: 2011-08-18 04:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] selke
I'm digging the art and kind of giggling at the head crab looking things. The only thing I don't like is the blue girl on the last scan. Too much of an obvious ass shot.

Date: 2011-08-18 06:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meatwhichdreams
Yeah...it kind of undercuts the tragic poignancy as you scroll down, eh?

"Oh god, Idie...my ass looks fantastic!"

Date: 2011-08-18 05:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] freezer
I'd forgotten that she was the one with the serious self-loathing/"Mutants are monsters, therefore I am a monster" thing.

Suddenly Logan losing his shit over her being there makes far more sense.

Date: 2011-08-18 05:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ian_karkull
Hahahaha! Oh my god, one of the little Hellfire dweebs is actually the Baron von Katzenelnbogen!
While that is nowhere near the Bavarian alps, as the book claims, it's a teeny tiny village in the region where I'm from! Also, the name means cat's elbow.
I am oddly pleased by this.

Katzenelnbogen....

Date: 2011-08-18 05:26 am (UTC)
capt_satellite: (Default)
From: [personal profile] capt_satellite
.....as in "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" :) I always loved that name!

These pages are heart-rending, though. Good post.

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Date: 2011-08-18 07:04 am (UTC)
misterbug: (Default)
From: [personal profile] misterbug
...REALLY inappropriate time to show off I-don't-care-what-her-name-is-blue-girl's booty.

It's getting ridiculous when even a moment of tragic pathos has to have cheesecake gratuitously wedged in there.

Date: 2011-08-18 01:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkm1993
I couldn't agree more. Look, i don't mind cheesecake. With certain characters, stories and situations it can work well. But the pointless cheesecake in this situation just threatens to ruin the moment.

Date: 2011-08-18 07:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] newnumber6
I just hope they don't decide to make her role in kicking off schism more poignant by, say, having her commit suicide because of it, because Idie was literally the only one in Generation Hope's initial cast that almost made me want to continue reading the book. (Shinji might have been another, but I gave up on it while he was still in supervillain mode).

Date: 2011-08-18 09:08 pm (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Best depiction of PTSD I've seen since the carnie in Girl Genius.

Date: 2011-08-20 02:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
Holy shit.
Even more that Kenji is trying to comfort/help her, because... well, it's Kenji.

Idie..... We really need to get someone to teach her self-love.

Date: 2011-08-21 09:58 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Can't any of the newer X-Men just say "Yes, my powers can be very dangerous, but that doesn't mean I'm a monster."?

Date: 2011-09-09 08:49 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
There have been mutants like that though.

Date: 2011-09-09 08:48 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Having Cyclops and Wolverine Screaming in her head sure didn't help matters.

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