Matter-of-factly doing " '66 Batman is on the same level as other Batmen " is much better than almost any kind of " riffing on '66 Batman's immediate tonal differences to other Batmen " at length, though.
(Plus, it's not like Adam West couldn't have played the kind of menace you'd expect out of a Zur - willfully leaning into self-parody aside, he was an actor, and actors can generally act.)
I'll always remember that in the crossover with Planetary the 66 Batman was the most effective in hindering Jakita Wagner, a literal brick shithouse of a superhuman, in her pursuit of him.
I can. Remember, no one was more prepared than Adam West's Batman.
"Holy plot twist, Batman! I thought King Tut's crimification ray was going to force you to steal candy from that baby!"
"Actually, old chum, I'm the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. Batman used self-hypnosis techniques he learned in mystic Tibet to create a backup personality to take over in case some outside influence ever tried to force him to violate his oath to uphold goodness and the law."
"That's brilliant! But what's Zur-En-Arrh?"
"Why, that's where he learned it. You probably know it better as Shangri-la, Robin."
The Zur Beyond is an odd one. Is that Terry, or the elderly Bruce before he hung up the cowl? And if it is Terry, how on Earth was he persuaded to go along with this?
I give it five seconds before Bruce punches Bruce. If that.
It'd probably seem like a good idea to the more controlling versions of Bruce; who else would provided the exact amount of perfectionism he'll never get from the Bat-Family, but in practice... it won't take long for one of them to find some fault, and it'll escalate from there.
(... wait, they actually call themselves "Zur"? Huh. Weird.)
Like how DKR Zur is drawn in imitation of the comic. Nice touch. Presuming the Zur behind Keaton-Zur is Clooney?
I dunno. Each Zur tends to match the aesthetics of each 'verse they're from. Think if it were the Arkham-verse Batman it'd have the detailing his outfit had.
It's definitely Arkham Batman, if only because he's already shown up in this run and there's something to compare it to. Plus it would be redundant to have both Keaton and Clooney, in my opinion.
If this ends up being an indictment of the narcissistic underpinnings of all these "Every character is a version of the main character" stories, then I'll rescind all my complaints about the story leading up to it.
I'm not saying it's not fun to put all these versions of Batman together. It's just...nobody's going to do the Spider-Verse movies better than the Spider-Verse movies, so if you don't want to sink into Ezra Miller Flash territory, you've got to come up with some new angle. This could be that.
(I'm still kind of mystified, though, at the notion that Zur-en-Arrh would be this universal feature of Batmen. Like, where was he in the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher movies?)
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Date: 2023-12-04 05:56 pm (UTC)(Plus, it's not like Adam West couldn't have played the kind of menace you'd expect out of a Zur - willfully leaning into self-parody aside, he was an actor, and actors can generally act.)
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Date: 2023-12-05 06:48 pm (UTC)"Holy plot twist, Batman! I thought King Tut's crimification ray was going to force you to steal candy from that baby!"
"Actually, old chum, I'm the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh. Batman used self-hypnosis techniques he learned in mystic Tibet to create a backup personality to take over in case some outside influence ever tried to force him to violate his oath to uphold goodness and the law."
"That's brilliant! But what's Zur-En-Arrh?"
"Why, that's where he learned it. You probably know it better as Shangri-la, Robin."
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Date: 2023-12-05 12:45 am (UTC)Is that Terry, or the elderly Bruce before he hung up the cowl?
And if it is Terry, how on Earth was he persuaded to go along with this?
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Date: 2023-12-06 09:50 pm (UTC)But only if it was in a needlessly evil fashion.
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Date: 2023-12-04 04:55 pm (UTC)If that.
It'd probably seem like a good idea to the more controlling versions of Bruce; who else would provided the exact amount of perfectionism he'll never get from the Bat-Family, but in practice... it won't take long for one of them to find some fault, and it'll escalate from there.
(... wait, they actually call themselves "Zur"? Huh. Weird.)
Like how DKR Zur is drawn in imitation of the comic. Nice touch.
Presuming the Zur behind Keaton-Zur is Clooney?
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Date: 2023-12-04 06:09 pm (UTC)Not sure if anyone has the data to quantify how " real " their lives are, though.
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Date: 2023-12-04 07:06 pm (UTC)I imagine it's more common if you've got big issues with your birth family but also a strong desire to cultivate such relationships with someone.
It's an imperfect metric, but this link suggests that "found family" has a lot more mainstream reach than "fridging" or "fridged" at this point: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=found+family%2Cfridging%2Cfridged&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3
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Date: 2023-12-04 07:42 pm (UTC)I'm not saying it's not fun to put all these versions of Batman together. It's just...nobody's going to do the Spider-Verse movies better than the Spider-Verse movies, so if you don't want to sink into Ezra Miller Flash territory, you've got to come up with some new angle. This could be that.
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