Date: 2024-06-05 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
I forget was Sandman back to being a crook again at this point?

Date: 2024-06-05 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dan_ingram
To be fair, he was reverted :(

Shame this is the closest he's ever come to being a T-Bolt

Date: 2024-06-05 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
This issue makes the Byrne/Mackie Spider-Man era (and hasty brainwashing retcon) so much worse.

Sandman’s “friends” in the hero community (the Thing, Spider-Man, Silver Sable, ect) were all “I can’t believe he deceived us like this”

Meanwhile Hawkeye – a character he’d barely interacted with despite technically both being Avengers – came in and immediately recognized that something is off and he needs help.

Date: 2024-06-05 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mazway_75
The warning sign should be no way Sandman had the smarts to pull some long con of "pretend reform for a pardon."

Date: 2024-06-05 06:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I do like the idea that everyone just assumes the dumb muscle was secretly some sort of devious mastermind all this time. What if Sandman was Sid the Squid from Batman the Animated Series?

Date: 2024-06-05 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] blues32
...uh...what's wrong with Moonstone? "Can't fight them...they're not evil"? Since when did that matter?

Date: 2024-06-05 06:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
She’s going through some changes. Let’s just say it’s all part of an ongoing character arc that will be addressed in due time. :)

Date: 2024-06-05 06:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Hawkeye's penis is magic.

Date: 2024-06-05 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dan_ingram
Hey, he's a guy who knows how to handle a shaft ;)

Date: 2024-06-05 09:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
All I'm saying is...

Moonstone's actual redemption arc started when she was sleeping with Hawkeye and the backsliding started when he stopped sliding her on her back.

Also, after Natasha was with Clint, she not only defected to the west, but she went on to be one of the few people that can survive sex with Daredevil.

Date: 2024-06-05 06:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
You gotta love the deep cuts represented by the Penance Council.
Golden Age hero, Golden Age nationalistic hero/villain, the children and grandchildren of Golden Age heroes
(Nuklo is the son of Whizzer and Miss America, Topspin is descended from the Human Top, Goldfire from Golden Girl…)
Obscure is fun!

Date: 2024-06-05 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] dan_ingram
I still wonder if they were meant as deep cuts, or if those were the only characters Fabian could find that suited the concept

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