Captain America #341

[iamrman]

Cap and Tony have words! John Walker outed! Serpent civil war!

Always loved the Scarlet Centurion armour.

Meanwhile, John Walker’s big speech is interrupted by two former BUCkies, bitter that they weren’t able to get in on Walker’s success.

Also meanwhile, at the Serpent Citadel...

Comments

[scorntx]

The Serpent Society really are committed to their theme, huh.
Snake-phones and cobra-shaped four poster beds, cobra-shaped mirrors.
(Batman comics have the Carpenter doing all the supervillain lairs in Gotham. Guessing the Serpents have someone they hire for their interior decorating.)

See what happens when you do accounting in bed?
You get bitten.

(unless it happened over in Iron Man, I don't recall Steve and Tony having any conversation about ethics...
Wait, was this before or after Tony faked 'Iron Man's' death?)

[iamrman]

Tony faked Iron Man's death at a later point.

[blues32]

As a result of fighting Fire Power, I believe...

[redorion]

They have a small talk in Iron Man #238 where they basically call a truce but don’t have a real resolution until Captain America #401 where they have a chat in a bar about Tony’s actions in both Armor Wars and Operation: Galactic Storm.

[beyondthefringe]

If you're gonna commit to a theme, don't hold back.
I'm still amused that Black Mamba (Tanya) was willing to dress up like a French maid to serve Sidewinder. Apparently, she was a call girl prior to being a supervillain, but she also liked Sidewinder so... (and hey, looks, props to Sidewinder for defying the 'young and handsome' trend.)

Right-Winger and Left-Winger. Ugh. Also, their part of the story does not end well at all.

Steve and Tony: I know it's fun to have friction among heroes, but I hate how often these two are at odds with one another, right down to punching the crap out of each other as the universe literally ended. But back then, with Tony especially betraying Cap's trust during the original Armor Wars, it was a pretty powerful splintering of friendships and bonds.

[bravest_spinja]

Something interesting about Iron Man and Captain America dynamic is I feel like they become more acrimonious as they become closer. Like obviously they were colleagues and OGs but for the longest time I don't think it was a particularly...intimate relationship, if anything Iron Man and Thor were more besties. Then, after roughly two decades of publication, Cap learns Iron Man is Tony Stark (at the same time as Tigra!) but besides calling him out for dating Janet without disclosing his superhero ID, they don't interact a lot as Tony becomes indisposed/is almost exclusively based in L.A. This fight become an iconic comics moment, but he was burning a lot of bridges during the Armor Wars.

Galactic Storm was far from the first time they disagreed, but I think really where they were potentally codified as larger representations of superhero ethics (Iron Man is a very interesting character as he for the most part seems to exist outside the hero vs anti-hero dichotomy, but he was the closest the Avengers had at the time, I guess) but what was also interesting was, because Janet and Thor (Erik Masterson was Thor) at the time were not in the mix to say "This is how the Avengers do/don't operate". Really, that Thor's status would become something of an emeritus one was also a major factor in Steve and Tony's dynamic, from the New Avengers becoming their baby, to Civil War, to the MCU, etc.

[super_fly]

I have to say: the way Steve vaults over Iron Man's shoulder looks more dainty than dashing.

[mastermahan]

"Wait, why are you putting on her outfit when your plan requires him not even looking at you? Like. you're even putting her earrings on but not like a wig or anything?"

"Because it's sexy, obviously. Now help me take her garters off."