Red Robin #8

[sistermagpie]

Red Robin is basically about Tim's transition from boy sidekick to adult hero, starting with Tim being angry at Dick's kicking him out of the nest and fighting to keep hold of his "boy wonder" role as Robin, but in trying to hold on to it learning (imo) that he's outgrown it.

There's already been a running theme of Tim announcing that he's about to die, only to not die, almost as if he's step by step coming to accept that there is life after Robin.

I scanned these two pages because they seem to encapsulate what Chris Yost is going for in this series in terms of what Tim's about and what growing up (not sure if that's the right word) is about.





At one point Tim tells someone "I know who I am," and that seems to basically be the theme of this series. Everybody's joked about how everyone Tim loves gets either killed or threatened with death, so I like the way Yost focuses on him coming to understand that he carries those people with him in a way. For Bats, fighting ninjas is therapy.

Suggested tags: char: robin/red robin/tim drake, char: tam fox,creator: chris yost, creator: marcus to,publisher: dc comics,title: red robin

Comments

[sistermagpie]

But as Tim himself has recently told himself, he hasn't actually told anybody why Bruce is supposed to be alive--except for Conner, who believed him. It does mean something, but it's not like other people have treated him badly over his belief. They thought he was unstable--but he's that too!

But of course when he gets back to Gotham and actually shares the evidence everyone will admit he was right and thank him for it.

Actually, given the fact that in B&R it seems like Dick's going to be resurrecting that corpse they've got, I wonder if what will happen will be that by the time Tim gets his moment to tell Dick what evidence he has that Bruce is alive, Dick will tell him he's already started to believe him because of whatever happens there.

[jaybee3]

I think so too. From the B&R solicits (which can be misleading I know) it seems that whatever Dick does to that body in the Lazarus Pit goes haywire which may lead to him figuring out that either that's not Bruce's body at all or his conscience is elsewhere (like Captain America or Green Arrow when he came back). Then I think he'll start to listen to Tim (this should be in March or April just when the Return of Bruce is supposed to start).

[psychopathicus_rex]

It's possible that what's currently jumping all over the time stream could loosely be defined as Bruce's soul, for lack of a better word. Therefore, dipping his body in the Lazarus Pit will likely only result in a mindless automaton - a living, breathing shell. My guess is that, having resurrected said shell and realizing that it IS just a shell, Dick and company will be trying to figure out just what they did wrong and what to do know when Bruce will return from his cross-time voyage, plonk himself back into his body, and go 'Hi, there, everyone! Miss me?' Then they'll go 'Yaaay! We did it right after all!' and Tim will go 'No you didn't, can't you SEE? He hasn't been RESURRECTED; he's been alive all along, just somewhere else in a different body! I was right!' Then they'll do their usually 'Timmy, seek professional help' thing, and it'll be up to Bruce to act as tiebreaker. Who will he back up? It should be interesting.

[sistermagpie]

Actually, I think the search for Bruce Wayne is going to be a story in Batman & Robin--which is why I figured they'd have to admit Tim was right before that. I'm not sure how the things will go together, but it seems like Bruce will be trying to get back to them (or at least having adventures trying to get somewhere) while they're all looking for him.

[psychopathicus_rex]

I suppose that makes sense. Still, if it's Bruce Wayne's soul that is bouncing around the timestream (and I think it more or less has to be, since his body is still in Gotham), it has to come back SOMEWHERE. Getting him another body is going to be a key factor, whether it's a resurrected version of his old one, a clone body, or what have you.

[akodo_rokku]

Here is what I think is going on with that Bruce's "corpse" from Final Crisis:

Darkseid described the Omega Effect as "the death that is life", which leads me to suspect that it's like the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who - Bruce is sent off to cascade through time, living out *a* life, and the body may actually be his from whenever he really does die.

Of course Bruce, being Bruce, will solve the "mystery" of what Darkseid did to him and eventually escape from this particular deathtrap.