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Seriously, Tim, I know you and Steph have issues and all, but there's not an award out for how many ways you can tells someone they're a useless screw-up and all around icky girl. (He told her she was playing DRESS UP. . WHAT. ) At least Stephanie's fighting back this time, and calling him on his assholery last time they met. You go, girl!

All in all, the argument is pretty much going the way I predicted. I'm waiting with bated breath for her to compare him to Edward Cullen

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tags: char: spoiler/robin/batgirl/steph brown, title: batgirl, creator: bryan q. miller, creator: talent caldwell,

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Date: 2010-03-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] theanswer
Errr... Dick I mean.

Date: 2010-03-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] warpedhand
Also he's being primarily written by Morrison.

Date: 2010-03-09 11:40 pm (UTC)
ficticons: Icon of Stephanie Brown as Batgirl, drawn by a fan (steph!batgirl)
From: [personal profile] ficticons
Absolutely motto.

Date: 2010-03-09 11:55 pm (UTC)
ficticons: (pic#435856)
From: [personal profile] ficticons
Love the fortune-cookie dialogue (I'm assuming that's what it is?) from the training 'bots.

At least Tim realized that he was throwing stones, and took off his cowl before continuing. I like that segment.

And look, Cass got name-dropped! Could this mean she's coming back sometime this year? Maybe Tim will go looking for her next, if she doesn't come back after hearing about Bruce's return.

However, I am not not so keen on the art all around.

Date: 2010-03-09 11:59 pm (UTC)
supergirl: (Default)
From: [personal profile] supergirl
So can Kon just hover next to Tim and hit him upside the head whenever he's being a dick?

"You know what Lex Luthor would do, Tim? Because hey, at this point, maybe you're the one related to him."

Date: 2010-03-10 12:00 am (UTC)
benicio127: (Damian)
From: [personal profile] benicio127
Does anyone else get the feeling that Tim and Steph are going to have an angry make-out session after that last panel?

Date: 2010-03-10 12:05 am (UTC)
arysteia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arysteia
While Tim in this specific instance, and Bruce, Dick ect ect at various others, do behave like jerks, there remains one fundamental problem for me wherein they're basically in the right. We saw it in the Batgirl Year One scans posted recently too.

Namely: who owns the bat symbol and who's entitled to wear it.

If you want to be an independent vigilante and do your thing, good luck to you. No higher power gave Bruce permission, and you don't need it either. (I'm fully aware Bruce has been known to claim that right as god-emperor of the Gotham night, but that's a separate issue.)

If you want to wear the BAT, and therefore claim all the rights/privileges that go with it... Different story. That *is* Bruce's, and does require permission the way I see it. You're explicitly trading on his established reputation, and using that as a shortcut to build your own. And while that's most true on a meta level (lazy writers, no biscuit) it's true in-universe too. Your actions reflect on him, and as such you have to follow his established code of behaviour. I think inducted members of the clan *are* entitled to question newcomers. And don't get me started on the use of the cave. I think that's the grossest kind of bad taste, given it's under the dead guy's home.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:11 am (UTC)
ext_396524: (Default)
From: [identity profile] stolisomancer.insanejournal.com
"Why was I programmed to feel pain--"

Poor little combat droid.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:20 am (UTC)
retro_nouveau: AARP Bruce (11)
From: [personal profile] retro_nouveau
Heh! I went there.

IhatehimIhatehimIhatehim... *SMOOCH*

Date: 2010-03-10 12:25 am (UTC)
ficticons: Icon of Stephanie Brown as Batgirl, drawn by a fan (steph!batgirl)
From: [personal profile] ficticons
I think inducted members of the clan *are* entitled to question newcomers.
Steph's not exactly a newcomer to the Batclan, though. She's been Robin before and now she's working with Babs, who was Batgirl before her (and worked out, AFAIK, all the Bat-symbol related issues with Bruce). I think this, if nothing else, means that she knows rather well what Bruce's 'established code of behaviour' is.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:26 am (UTC)
ficticons: Image of Hank Pym in The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes. He's in a lab coat, his costume under it, and he's writing (Default)
From: [personal profile] ficticons
LOL! So did I. :)

Date: 2010-03-10 12:29 am (UTC)
bluefall: blue-tinted autumn leaves (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
I think inducted members of the clan *are* entitled to question newcomers.

1. She's been a member of the Clan since Bruce started training her back in the 90s,
2. She has been directly and explicitly awarded the Batgirl mantle by both former Batgirls.

If you're really going to start trying to throw around claims of seniority, what Babs has to say about all this matters a hell of a lot more than anything Tim tries to add.

And I really don't see what the big deal is about Babs using the Cave. Yes, it is under the dead guy's house. I'm wearing a necklace right now that used to sit around a dead woman's neck. That's how inheritance works; you die, your stuff gets used by your family.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:40 am (UTC)
foxhack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] foxhack
Sounds like something out of Portal. (Or maybe a reference that Portal uh, referenced.)

Date: 2010-03-10 12:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-03-10 12:42 am (UTC)
thebigapricot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thebigapricot
In addition to what others have said I'll add that Dick is also fine with Steph as Batgirl as of the last issue. He's also fine with the Batcave.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:43 am (UTC)
bluefall: Temi smiling in approval (Artemis approves)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
It's a Simpsons quote AFAIK, though obviously the Simpmsons could have been referencing something older. But mostly it's Babs being a nerd is what it is, which makes me disturbingly happy.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] taggerung301
Tim-dickery aside, how the hell did Tim confuse Stephanie for Cassandra? there's a bunch of extremely visible blond hair with Steph's costume

Date: 2010-03-10 12:47 am (UTC)
bluefall: blue-tinted autumn leaves (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
Eh, that's a common enough one with an uncommon enough etymology that I'm not surprised it got through.

I start seeing "damn it's hard to breath in this mask", though, the mockage will be epic.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebecky-mo.livejournal.com
Oh most definitely, I'm waiting for the half page splash of that once scans come out. ;D

Date: 2010-03-10 12:48 am (UTC)
bluefall: blue-tinted autumn leaves (Default)
From: [personal profile] bluefall
(Sorry Nev. I only tease because I love. >.>)

Date: 2010-03-10 12:50 am (UTC)
requiem2adream: (DC Comics: Fanart: Won't take this crap)
From: [personal profile] requiem2adream
*Reads comment* *Looks back up at the panels*

YES! I knew something was bugging me about the art but I couldn't put my finger on it.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:51 am (UTC)
roibenrye: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roibenrye
I'm hoping the tension between them is resolved in this crossover.

That said, I can't really stop laughing about "this is my boom stick" and the fortune cookie droids. I love it, I really do.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:53 am (UTC)
roibenrye: (Default)
From: [personal profile] roibenrye
I chalk it up to maybe her female figure is back-lite when he approaches her but yeah, that still makes little sense.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:54 am (UTC)
arysteia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] arysteia
I was speaking very generally, and I certainly didn't mean to imply she doesn't know or adhere to the norms. I'm not criticising her at all. I'm responding (and, I admit, without having read any more than the scans posted here from time to time) to the general gut reaction that she can't be questioned.

Date: 2010-03-10 12:55 am (UTC)
deepspaceartist: Iron Man mark 43 (Default)
From: [personal profile] deepspaceartist
But Tim doesn't know that Dick approves. Add that to the fact that Steph gets snarky when Tim asks where Dick is, and I can see Tim believing that Steph doesn't have approval from Batman. And I do agree with Arysteia about needing Batman's approval to dress up as Bat-anyone, and I can forgive Tim for being a little short tempered.
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