Wonder Woman in Blackest Night: one panel summary

[thebigapricot]

Comics Alliance has put up what I think is a pretty accurate (and funny) 60 second overview of Blackest Night. My favorite is Wonder Woman.


And for legality, Wonder Woman and her "crush" in the Hiketeia


Tags:
char: wonder woman/diana of themyscira, char: batman/bruce wayne, title: blackest night

Comments

[zemo]

It's sad that I know that this is some kind of dream or alternate reality or illusion only due to the fact that Batman loses >_>

[hooraydiation]

It wasn't, though!

[zordboy]

I don't think that was the reason, but I know I didn't enjoy the Hikedetidekia thing anyway.

[bluefall]

Well, really, they both lose. It's not as though Diana ever actually gets him to go home and leave it alone any more than he actually brings Dani to Western justice.

[valtyr]

I have three Wonder Woman trades and the common thread is that she kicks the snot out of Batman in all of them.

[celestialchild]

That makes me chuckle with a warm, fuzzy feeling.

[q99]

Ok, Hiketeia, League of One, and what's the third? :)

[valtyr]

Eyes of the Gorgon. It is only a training fight, but she's blind and fighting about six superheroes, including Batman, and beats them all. :)

[q99]

That was a fun one :) Though Bats stays back enough that he doesn't get too much pounding.

[zordboy]

Yeah. If you actually read that storyline, she compliments Bruce for being one of the only heroes who actually managed to hurt her in that melee.

I also think "League of One" is just as insulting and treats Diana as just as much an idiot as apparently "Tower of Babel" treats Batman. And fair enough. When Batman stupidly puts his team-mates in mortal danger for no real reason over something that sorts itself out anyway, it's so much worse when Diana stupidly puts her team-mates in mortal danger for no real reason over something that sorts itself out anyway.

[q99]

Getting them out of the way *does* prevent the dragon from killing them, when she fights it she comments it's breath'd be fatal to any of them.

[valtyr]

for no real reason

Uh, no? The Oracle predicts that all who fight the dragon will die.

And, indeed, all who fight the dragon die.

Diana ensured that all the others did not fight the dragon and did not die.

The discussion between Diana and Bruce centres around their conflicting beliefs - Diana believes the Oracle at Delphae is never wrong in its predictions, Bruce believes it's so much mumbo-jumbo. Similar to the talk in Hiketeia, where Bruce doesn't really believe that Diana's beliefs and traditions are relevant.

[alienist]

This is because Bats is smart.

[zordboy]

I own "Tower of Babel".

I'll be over here giggling to myself inappropriately.

[bluefall]

... but Tower of Babel makes Bruce look so stupid. Why any Batman fan enjoys that story is beyond me; not only does it set him up as a sadistic hypocrite who's unwilling to kill bad guys but will happily plot the murder of his friends (which doesn't seem to bother a lot of Batfans, for whatever reason), but it makes him a moron about it, which ought to bother anyone, Bat-fan or not, since his mind is supposed to be his superpower, and making him dumb is just bad writing.

I mean, even before you get to the problems inherent in the system itself or the fact that Ra's was able to access it, those are some of the dumbest contingency plans ever. The three most physically powerful Leaguers get takedowns that wouldn't even work against mind control, and Arthur's takes multiple hours to even kick in. I will believe Bruce is not nicer than that. I will never believe Bruce is not smarter than that.

League of One, by contrast, gives Diana victories that make sense. It serves the characters, and makes Diana seem phenomenal, while Babel uses the characters and makes Bruce seem incompetent. It hardly makes the latter a useful rebuttal to the former.

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[zordboy]

How would Diana's not work against mind-control? Hers was the best of the lot. Even if a foreign mind is in the pilot's seat, her senses are still telling her she's in that fake virtual reality world. Threat nullified.

[valtyr]

Virtual reality? Where was her lasso?

[bluefall]

Who says a foreign mind needs to use her senses, or that it would be affected by a device attached to her brain rather than its own? We have no idea how Starro control works, and something like Max's control, which already relies on making you see whatever he wants you to see, or Deadman's, where he just does his own thing with your body, automatically succeeds.

Plus, as valtyr notes, the entire thing depends on her not holding the lasso at the time she gets hit with it, which is actually less reliable than putting your whole plan on Two-Face's coin coming up heads.

[valtyr]

Eh, so? In the majority of circumstances, Diana can take down Bruce with ease.

[da_reap]

Exactly. Diana's the same as Superman in that sense. Batman has a plan, sure, but absolutely EVERYTHING has to go right if he's going to win. One mistake, and Clark/Diana takes him out.

That's something that doesn't get enough attention from Batfans.

[kraesil]

Imo, something goes wrong, he finds another way to win, because he's BATMAN.

[da_reap]

And thank you for proving my point so perfectly, dear Batfan. :)

Just try to keep in mind, one of the fundamental aspects of Batman is 'the victory is in the preparation.' And when he's dealing with beings that could reduce him into a thin red smear without any appreciable effort, he needs a fuckton of preparation... Which he's taken care of, because he's Batman.

But when he's outclassed by this much power, most of Batman's fight is wearing the other side down enough that he can handle them himself- and the margin for error is pretty well nonexistent. It's a testament to the awesomeness of Batman how rarely that happens, but even he can be surprised (hence the Joker's continued threat)- and mechanical failures are a fact of life.

Any part of the plan goes wrong, and instead of dealing with a battered messed-up hero that's ready for the knockout, he's dealing with a pissed-off hero with plenty of fight left... who happens to be almost infinitely faster than he is and could blow his heart out through his spine with a well-placed breath.

But again, that practically never happens... because he's BATMAN.