The Warriors Four: The Cute-Arok continues!

[proteus_lives]

Greetings True Believers! Here are 3 and half scans from Thor and the Warriors Four #3.

The cute will destroy you! Power Pack! Tiny Thor! Widdle Odin! Baby Ray Bill!

Enjoy!

Suggested Tags: char: thor odinson/donald blake, char: beta ray bill, char: loki, char: enchantress/amora, char: energizer/katie power, group: power pack, publisher: marvel comics, creator: alex zalben, creator: gurihiru.





The epic thus far.....Loki and the Enchantress have turned the entire population of Asgard into babies and convince the Power Pack to steal the Golden Apples of Idunn for his "sick wife".

Before we move on. Tiny Thor rides on the back of Baby Ray Bill! Squeal!



Julie, Katie, Jack, TThor and Baby Bill find the way to Idunn's golden house but first they must face....The Squirrel of Mischief!!!





The Squirrel runs away like a being who could not win because Katie's power level is over 9000.

Today's lesson: DO NOT FUCK WITH KATIE POWER!!

They reach Idunn's crib and Thor proves he's a smoothie with the ladies.



They use the casket to grab the apples and bring them back to "Koil" and oh noes!!!



The cute of this mini is forever!

Comments

[mad]

"The Squirrel runs away like a bitch"

Misogynist language isn't needed to make your point.

[clueless-prime.livejournal.com]

Is this really misogynist? The usual concept of "bitch" as a pejorative term for a woman strikes me as implying qualities which are very much at odds with running away from something. It seems to me to be more likely a case of homonyms. The phrase "like a bitch", in my mind at least, seems quite divergent from the usage of calling someone "a bitch" and much more closely related to calling them "somebody's bitch", which I've always heard as a gender neutral insult. And the idea I've always associated with that phrase is not "bitch" as a misogynist insult, but rather "bitch" defined as a female dog. The idea of "running away like a bitch" conveys to me the idea of someone so badly defeated as to end up seeming subhuman, slinking off with their tail between their legs, not someone behaving like a woman of any sort.

Of course, all of this is really moot; if you find the phrase offensive or misogynist, I am by no means trying to invalidate that. Even if the phrase itself wasn't meant to or doesn't directly convey misogyny, it bringing to mind associations with other uses of the word is enough to trigger that reaction anyway. I merely think it brings up questions that are potentially interesting, at the very least on an academic level: can a word that is misogynistic or otherwise offensive in some uses be seen as neutral in others? And if so, is it acceptable to use such a word in those contexts expecting that others will recognize the intent, or is the association with other uses too strong?

[mad]

The main issue I take with it, is that regardless of how it is intended, the word and the phrase in which it was used may be hurtful, offensive or possibly even triggering for some people. And as we are aiming for a "safer space", as outlined in the community ethos and rules of conduct, I object to its use here.

more closely related to calling them "somebody's bitch", which I've always heard as a gender neutral insult.

Perhaps you may perceive the term as being gender-neutral, but in most cases it's not, and its root is absolutely gendered and derogatory. Though in some cases it has been used as reclaimatory language, that really isn't the case here.

You suggest that the usage of the term relates not to women, but to "the idea of someone so badly defeated as to end up seeming subhuman, slinking off with their tail between their legs". What's unfortunate and what you seem to be ignorant of is that women are frequently viewed as "subhuman" and treated as such, particularly in emotionally or physically abusive relationships.

Just consider the negative and misogynist connotations of the phrases you mention in light of such relationships, and think about how hurtful and possibly triggering it may be for someone to come across them, particularly if they have been in an abusive relationship. (And considering how much more likely women are to be victims of abuse, it emphasizes the gendered aspect.)

I'm not interested in an academic discussion of the term, and I am not going to change my position in this instance. If you have further objections or concerns you may direct them to < dailyscans[at]gmail[dot]com >.

[proteus_lives]

Changed.

Question, if I said, "The Squirrel runs away like a bastard" would you hook me for misandrist language?

[mad]

Question, if I said, "The Squirrel runs away like a bastard" would you hook me for misandrist language?

Not very likely.

[proteus_lives]

If I may ask, why not?

By the standards you've set, it should be equally verboten.

[mad]

I don't believe the word "bastard" is equally as offensive and possibly-triggering. (To my mind, although it does usually refer to men, the fact that it refers to children born out of wedlock and debate over inheritance makes me more likely to consider it a general insult or perhaps one relating to classism.) If it were used to insult or attack any real person, it would definitely not be acceptable.

Bottom line, it doesn't connote the same level of gender-based hatred or carry the same oppressive weight.

If you feel I'm in error in this assessment, I can throw it back to the rest of the mods and see what their consensus is, or you can drop us an e-mail to discuss it.

[sindra]

Being female myself, if I were to say "Runs away like a bitch", would it carry the same weight?

You know he didn't mean it the way it's original connotations dictate. You personally chose to take it by its original connotations and become offended. I didn't. Does that make either of us right or wrong in thinking the way we do? No, but you brought it up....so yeah.

Seriously not trying to pick fights. I'm just saying I think you need to simmer down. I've seen far worse from this community, intentional or not.

[kingrockwell]

A gender-based slur is still that, no matter the intentions. You cannot use a slur and then blame the listener for being offended. Just because misogynistic language has become ubiquitous in our culture doesn't make it right, and as we are working to make this comm a safer space, it isn't acceptable here.

What's more, telling someone they "need to simmer down" for calling out misogynistic language is a form of the tone argument fallacy, which not only polices the attitude of the person recognizing the problem, but, as you have done, unfairly attributes an unreasonable "uppitiness" for even pointing it out. Members are encouraged to call out sexism when they encounter it here, and calling them out for it isn't acceptable, either.

[proteus_lives]

Feel free to toss it around with the rest of the mods but I don't think any further discussion will be productive.