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AKA the final issue of this mini-series and the issue where I was like omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

[personal profile] cuntfucius, [personal profile] levy and [personal profile] whitesycamore will be giddy about this.




Four pages.









Whoa! WHOA! WHOA!! Hotter than I expected. Ahem! He wakes up and she's gone. She leaves him with a note and another very important gift, which I was so, so, so glad to see in this.



Oh hey, look! Jason uses gmail. Mary Borsellino will be pleased to know about the dagger in this.
Here's her entry from evenrobins.net on Jason's dagger. Quoting from the entry:
Red Hood’s weapon of choice is a dagger with a waved blade. This edge design has been popular in numerous cultures throughout history, with a variety of connotations attached to the distinctive shape.

In simple, practical terms, a waved blade allows for a longer overall edge distance than would be present in a straight dagger of the same length. Waved blades in longer weapons, such as Flamberge swords, have the added advantage of causing the other weapon in a duel to vibrate, thereby making one’s opponent uncomfortable. This would not be true to any noticeable degree in a weapon such as Red Hood’s knife, however.

The origin of Red Hood’s knife within the Batman comics themselves is most likely the story “The Lazarus Pit!” from issue #243 in 1972. One of the original Ra’s Al Ghul stories by the O’Neil/Adams/Giordano team, this issue saw Batman forced to duel against a man who owed debts to both Ra’s and Batman. Both opponents weilded waved daggers.

As Judd Winick, the writer responsible for the entire Red Hood arc, utilised the Al Ghul family as a significant plot element, it seems likely that this classic storyline was one of the key inspirations behind Red Hood’s dagger.

Just as with the history of waved daggers in the real world, however, the element of pure aesthetic interest must be taken into account. Placing a waved dagger in a panel is more visually interesting and suggests a greater degree of ritual — whether the reader is aware of the legacy of the Keris blade or not — than a simple knife can.

Whatever the reasons may be, Red Hood’s dagger has developed iconography of its own, and now casts a shadow of specific meaning forward over any future appearances of such weapons in future Batman stories.



I'm so sad to see this mini-series end.

Date: 2010-11-04 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
I don't think Talia having sex with other guys would ever be a reason she couldn't be Bruce's love interest, but I admit, if I were a guy I'd find everything she did in this comic a good reason to knock her out of the competition for my love interest!

Date: 2010-11-04 09:14 am (UTC)
levyrasputin: (roy-scars)
From: [personal profile] levyrasputin
...uhg, I don't know...

yeah, maybe a normal guy would but Bruce keep on falling for women that are threatening his safety - going against him and his will and that's probably rooted in his incapability of commitment and handling close human relationships that are not with him in total controll or with him completely unable to control the other element of the pair. Alfred is maybe the only exception.

Remeber Jezebel? as much as I hated that plot it still happened.

Date: 2010-11-04 10:14 am (UTC)
shewhohashope: moonlit forest/blossoms (Default)
From: [personal profile] shewhohashope
I can't help but feel that this misses the point somewhat? Talia shouldn't be viewed entirely with regards to how she rates as a love interest. I, personally, would prefer her to not have that (or any other) kind of relationship with Bruce, but that's also besides the point. This is not a complaint about people writing Talia off as Bruce's love interest because she has sex with other guys, it's about writing Talia off as Bruce's love interest.

Date: 2010-11-04 02:38 pm (UTC)
sistermagpie: Classic magpie (Default)
From: [personal profile] sistermagpie
Oh, I agree. I didn't mean for that to be on point. I just thought it kind of funny that anyone would consider "sex with other guys" as putting anyone out of the running for "Bruce's love interest." I think it seems ironic to me also because it always seemed like Talia is mostly Bruce's big love interest because she always calls herself that, not because she spends so much time hanging out with Bruce as a love interest.

Date: 2010-11-04 02:51 pm (UTC)
levyrasputin: (kyledrawings)
From: [personal profile] levyrasputin
Talia shouldn't be viewed entirely with regards to how she rates as a love interest.

Surely not, but that's what is done by both the writers and the audience on a regular base, and that's one of the top depressing thing in this thread, her actions being judged on the reaction Bruce might have to that first and foremost.
pffff like he'd have any right to complain....

In my dreamworld, all of his robins fuck all of his ladies happily and he is left alone to age in solitude with the bats in the cave :D!

Date: 2010-11-04 07:12 pm (UTC)
darkness_p: (oracle)
From: [personal profile] darkness_p
Absolutely but she's been written as "someone"'s love interest or "someone"'s daughter since her creation. Even in the 70s - the character's high point - she wasn't more than that. Her stint as Lexcorp's CEO started as a dig to her father and ended to help Bruce. The criticism on the writers part is totally justified, I don't think any of them really see her more than villainess with an exotic attitude.

Don't get me wrong, I would love her to be written as strong and independent as I'm from Middle East, too. It irritates me that one of the most famous female middle eastern characters in comic books is all about men. The way she's been portrayed though... It presses all my hot buttons.

Date: 2010-11-04 11:22 pm (UTC)
shewhohashope: woman in dress holding a gun (Comics: Talia al Ghul)
From: [personal profile] shewhohashope
I'm not denying that she has been written as a love interest, but I'm not interested in seeing more of that. And she doesn't necessarily have to be independent, just... any kind of focus on her for her own sake and her relationships with people who are not her father, her son, or Bruce.

Date: 2010-11-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
darkness_p: (nightwing)
From: [personal profile] darkness_p
Some male fans I come across actually voiced this in DC Boards before. I don't remember if they were the same fans but I remember reading something along the lines "Does it bother you that Catwoman sleeps with other men" topic in DC Boards, too. God forbid if a woman sleeps with somebody other than the hero who she's not in a relationship with. Hero on the other hand can sleep/flirt/take baths with different women in every planet. >:|

Talia sleeping with other men is not the problem but her sleeping with Bruce's son?! That will knock her out if Morrison induced rape didn't.

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